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U.S. EBay Seller Refuses Canucks (France, Mexico, Germany too)
wired.com ^ | Mar. 25, 2003 | Charles Mandel

Posted on 03/25/2003 1:34:07 PM PST by cdefreese

VANCOUVER, British Columbia -- On eBay, the highest bid wins -- unless the item on sale is a laser printer from CompAtlanta and the bidder happens to be Canadian.

That's what a tax consultant discovered last week when he tried to buy a printer on eBay, but was refused by the vendor when it was discovered he lived in Vancouver.

David Ingram received notification that his winning bid of $24.50 had been canceled, along with this message: "At the present time, we do not ship to, or accept bids from, Canada, Mexico, France, Germany or any other country that does not support the United States in our efforts to rid the world of Saddam Hussein. If you are not with us, you are against us."

Ingram's .ca address sparked the notice from CompAtlanta, based in Lawrenceville, Georgia. Canada is one of a number of countries that said it would not support an American invasion of Iraq without United Nations' approval.

"I've made a winning bid,'' Ingram said. "To discriminate against me because I'm a Canadian is ridiculous."

Sid Mitchell, CompAtlanta's president, could not be reached for comment. However, an e-mail exchange between Ingram and Mitchell clearly laid out the company's policy: "What part of this listing do you not understand?" Mitchell wrote Ingram. "This item will not be shipped outside the USA, and we do not accept bids from Canadians. Both are plainly stated."

That didn't stop Ingram from trying again over the weekend. He bid for the laser printer a second time, offering $107.50 to avoid being outbid and specifying delivery to an American address. In a separate message, he informed Mitchell that he wanted the printer shipped stateside.

Judging by Mitchell's reply, however, Ingram isn't likely to get his printer from CompAtlanta: "You are obviously trying to get around the fact that you are Canadian," Mitchell wrote to Ingram, "and we will not honor your bid or ship to any location for you."

Ingram said Mitchell lacks a good business reason for not shipping to a Canadian who uses an American address. "If they're going to do that,'' Ingram said, "then they shouldn't sell to the 50 percent of Democrats and the 20 percent of Republicans that aren't supporting the war, either."

CompAtlanta is one of a small number of companies boycotting countries opposed to the war. The German newspaper Deutsche Welle reported late last week that a German shoe-supply manufacturer lost a contract with an American firm over Germany's stance on the war. There have also been reports of American consumers boycotting French wine and cheese.

But the boycotts aren't widespread yet. JoAnn Dupont, a customer service representative with eBay vendor IkeSound.com of Florida, said her company's policy of shipping to Canada and other countries has not changed as a result of the war.

And some eBay vendors selling such items as Saddam Hussein "terrorist hunting licenses" and dart boards will ship them anywhere in the world.

Andre Lemay, a spokesman for the Canadian department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade in Ottawa, said he wasn't aware of any reverse boycott. Nor did he believe such a boycott would be an issue, since Canada and the United States remain each others' two largest trading partners. "We still believe our relationship with the U.S. is good -- in fact, enviable,'' he said.

EBay spokesman Kevin Pursglove said CompAtlanta was the only eBay merchant he knew of that is boycotting buyers for reasons related to the war. He said sellers can decide with whom they want to do business, but eBay frowns on posting overtly political messages. Pursglove said eBay ordered CompAtlanta to remove the auction item and to modify its message to bidders from Canada, Mexico, France and Germany.

But CompAtlanta's message is still more or less intact, which incenses Ingram. He says he plans to pursue the matter with eBay.

He may also take it up in person with CompAtlanta. If he doesn't receive his printer before a scheduled trip south of the border later in the fall, Ingram says he'll pay the computer vendor a visit.

"If they don't send it,'' he said, "sometime in September or October I will park outside their store with a sign saying they discriminate against Canadians."

(Excerpt) Read more at wired.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Mexico; Miscellaneous; Technical; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: american; freepbay; patriot
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To: cdefreese
"If they don't send it,'' he said, "sometime in September or October I will park outside their store with a sign saying they discriminate against Canadians."

I'm sure that the typical resident of Lawrenceville, Georgie will be shocked, saddened and deeply troubled that Canadians are being discriminated against. NOT!

41 posted on 03/25/2003 1:58:11 PM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, Zoolander)
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To: tuna_battle_slight_return
Hot Damn!
And we're looking for a new printer too!
42 posted on 03/25/2003 1:59:39 PM PST by netmilsmom (Bush/Rice 2004- pray & fast for our troops this lent-Peace through strength)
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To: Grig
"You Americans should check your aim befor you squeeze off a shot. "

Ignore the Quickdraw McGraws here. A lot of us know better.
43 posted on 03/25/2003 1:59:43 PM PST by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: asformeandformyhouse
No need for this Canadian to make a "rush to upgrade".
44 posted on 03/25/2003 2:00:48 PM PST by mabelkitty
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To: rageaholic
I also state in my auctions that I don't sell outside the USA for some of the same reasons you listed. What is amazing is that many Canadians ignore this and quickly pay for the auction using the US shipping amount and think you will ship it to them anyway and take a loss!
45 posted on 03/25/2003 2:01:14 PM PST by Amanda King (eBay... still free to sell to whom you wish ...for now anyway.)
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To: cdefreese
My husband is at Sun Training right now in St.Louis. I passed along this article. He's in with some lovely geeks who buy tons of computer equipment. I told him to pass the word!
46 posted on 03/25/2003 2:02:48 PM PST by netmilsmom (Bush/Rice 2004- pray & fast for our troops this lent-Peace through strength)
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To: cdefreese
"then they shouldn't sell to the 50 percent of Democrats and the 20 percent of Republicans that aren't supporting the war, either."

Somehow, I just have a hunch that they have a nice list and won't ship to people named Michael Moore, Cheryl Crowe, Robert Byrd, Janine Godawfulho, Tom Daschle, Bill Mahre, Howard Dean, Al Sharpton, or Bill Farrell, among others.

47 posted on 03/25/2003 2:02:52 PM PST by Xthe17th (FREE THE STATES. Repudiate the 17th amendment!)
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To: cdefreese
The seller on eBay has the right to decide whether or not to sell to foreign bidders, as long as any restrictions are clearly stated in the auction description. Unfortunately, eBay is coming under increasing pressure from the political correctness crowd, limiting what can be listed, and even what words can be used to describe them. It is only a matter of time before eBay will be forced by these pressure groups to limit the sellers "right to choose" where they ship their merchandise.
48 posted on 03/25/2003 2:02:57 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Never forget: CLINTON PARDONED TERRORISTS)
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To: Centurion2000
Discriminate against Canadians!!! I love it, lets go chop down their trees, steal their oil fields, fish their lakes, and off their caibou.
49 posted on 03/25/2003 2:03:09 PM PST by Porterville (Screw the grammar, full posting ahead.)
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To: CheezyD
Excellent! I just sent a message of appreciation for them making a stand.


Me too!!! Good goin guys!!!
50 posted on 03/25/2003 2:05:49 PM PST by BriarBey
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To: cdefreese
CompAtlanta is going to get real busy now. Who says politics is bad for business?
51 posted on 03/25/2003 2:05:51 PM PST by groanup (Whom the market gods humble they first make proud.)
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To: newgeezer
Shipping to Canada has become a real pain, and expensive.
Just an hour ago I made a $24 Ebay sale to a Canadian. The 5 lb box will cost almost $20 to ship by post office. Then, there is the trouble of filling out the customs form.. What happened to free trade?
52 posted on 03/25/2003 2:06:07 PM PST by AlexW
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To: groanup
Let's keep this thread bumped a while. A little Freep publicity.
53 posted on 03/25/2003 2:07:01 PM PST by groanup (Whom the market gods humble they first make proud.)
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To: cdefreese
He says he plans to pursue the matter with eBay.

Rotsa ruck, Monsieur Canuck.

54 posted on 03/25/2003 2:08:36 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: nevergore
Here's something else that won't go over well in Atlanta: Canadian fans Boo US National Anthem.
55 posted on 03/25/2003 2:10:54 PM PST by Xthe17th (FREE THE STATES. Repudiate the 17th amendment!)
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"If they don't send it,'' he said, "sometime in September or October I will park outside their store with a sign saying they discriminate against Canadians."

Seems to me that a trip to Atlanta in Sept or Oct might be in order.. if for no other reason than to see a Canuck get his ass kicked by a Georgian.

Semper Fi
56 posted on 03/25/2003 2:12:15 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (Can't stand rude behavior in a man.... Won't tolerate it.)
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To: rageaholic
They often whine about postage costs. I started to get the feeling most Canadians live below what Americans consider the poverty line.

We should do something about this.

Let's start a protest movement to get Canada to raise their minimum wage to a liveable salary!

57 posted on 03/25/2003 2:14:55 PM PST by weegee (McCarthy was right, Fight The Red Menace)
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To: Grig
I trust they are honourable enough that they wouldn't sell anything made in Canada either. Like anything with ATI Technologies.


http://mirror.ati.com/shopati/onboard/desktop/index.html


58 posted on 03/25/2003 2:22:39 PM PST by Snowyman
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To: rageaholic
EXCELLENT!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/simpsons/images/340/burns.jpg

(SORRY COULDN'T PASTE THE IMAGE HERE)



60 posted on 03/25/2003 2:24:02 PM PST by John Frum
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