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Freep Foxnews! I'm getting sick of this!

Posted on 04/27/2003 4:50:47 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55

I've e-mailed them once, and it doesn't seem to be getting their attention.
Julian Phillips on the weekend Fox and Friends is blatantly shoving his liberal crap down the throats of the viewers.

Not only that, but he keeps calling our President just "Bush" Here is an example of what he has been saying...

"Bush needs to be held accountable if we don't find these weapons of mass destruction. I understand that they are hard to find, but thats the only reason Bush went in there in the first place."

He said over and over virtually the same thing yesterday, and I e-mailed Foxnews, and nothing has changed.
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To: ConservativeMan55
For what it's worth, knowing my "love" for Julian Phillips, my mom sent me info on this thread *and* after reading all of the messages thus far, after all these years, this topic was my incentive to register to be able to post messages. (Before, I figured I have enough distractions....)

I am a Fox News JUNKIE; however, I no longer watch the weekend edition of Fox & Friends; I stopped doing so weeks ago. When I'm tempted to sample the channel because I need my fix, if "DESERVES NO TITLE OF RESPECT Phillips" is on, I change the channel. (booktv is on cspan2 on weekends, so I have that option.)

In my case, I can tolerate differences of opinion. My objection to Phillips is the friction that he causes on that show and his inability to present his beliefs in an articulate manner.
161 posted on 04/27/2003 8:07:40 AM PDT by Fawnn (I think therefore I'm halfway there....)
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To: Fawnn
When the WMD capabilities are proven, let's make sure this idiot and all his fellow carpers are made to account. "You said this was the whole reason for going there (it wasn't). Now that they've been proven, isn't the war totally justified?, A-hole?
162 posted on 04/27/2003 8:12:40 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: Fawnn
I am a Fox News JUNKIE; however, I no longer watch the weekend edition of Fox & Friends; I stopped doing so weeks ago...In my case, I can tolerate differences of opinion. My objection to Phillips is the friction that he causes on that show and his inability to present his beliefs in an articulate manner.

Welcome to FR, Fawnn. You have made one of my points. People tune in to what they want to hear and, alternatively, tune out to what they find "offensive." People seek to listen to views they share. I don't watch much, either, on the weekends, because of Julian---he's typical, in my opinion, of all liberals: they almost always display an "inability to present [their] beliefs in an articulate manner." However, liberals will listen to other liberals. There are usually two other conservatives on with Julian, who don't agree with him. So, while the libs tune in (and us conservatives tune out) on the weekend, they're listening to refutations made in a fairly articulate manner (on the other hand, the weekend crew is not a shining star of articulation). Perhaps the remedy would be to have stronger, more articulate weekend hosts for Fox and Friends.

163 posted on 04/27/2003 8:19:31 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: TLBSHOW
Get rid of the TV.

I thought that you said not too long ago that you were GETTING a TV. Care to clarify?

164 posted on 04/27/2003 8:35:07 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: nicmarlo
My point was: It's not that I won't listen to the liberal POV. (Anyone who's watched booktv knows they focus on far more liberal authors than they do conservatives.)

Fox News is a blessing because there's finally a television source for news presented mostly by those who appear to share my point of view. (I'm an OpinionJournal.com/Best of the Web and SnappleFace.com junkie for the same reason.) ... But, that doesn't mean I automatically dismiss someone because he or she doesn't think like I do.

I do dismiss somebody, however, when I find the manner in which s/he presents those opinions to be offensive -- either because s/he cites faked information (the cartoon of the social security granny being pushed down the stairs comes to mind), or, in Julian's case, when he's spouting the liberal lines meant to set things up so that no matter what happens and what way Operation Iraqi Freedom played out, those of that mindset could say that President Bush had failed. (It didn't take those predicted weeks and weeks of house-to-house combat, so now it's back to failing to grant the military a fraction of the time to find WMD the liberals insisted we give the inspectors, harping about *our* failure at diplomacy, the preemptive consequences garbage, or insisting that a coalition of 50ish countries equals a unilateral action.)

I get fed up with anyone who is a party to the "repeat a lie enough times it becomes the truth" -- like the FORMER Pres. Clinton and "it was all about sex" mentality. Julian Phillips seems to me to be the type too lazy to do enough research to formulate his own opinions, so he repeats those lies and thinks that makes him profound.
165 posted on 04/27/2003 8:45:32 AM PDT by Fawnn (I think therefore I'm halfway there....)
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To: rabidralph; ConservativeMan55
<< What fun would TV be if you agreed 100 percent with everything the anchors said? >>

Can't speak for myself because I never have enjoyed it.

But them that liburrrrills always agree 100% with what the anchors say -- and they seem to love it pretty good!
166 posted on 04/27/2003 8:46:20 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ConservativeMan55
I'm getting real sick of "Cutter". It's K'tar. Rhymes with Ak-bar. I don't think there is a single other word in Arabic that ends with BAR that isn't pronounced that way.
167 posted on 04/27/2003 8:53:38 AM PDT by djf
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To: Carolinamom
the internet and talk radio provided enough news about the war, that it would of been a waste of time to get it.

I would of considered it if they would let me get just fox news but they said no...

My news is FreeRepublic, Rush Limbaugh Show, Wgy Radio's Allen Miller 3 to 7 and Michael Savage 7 to 10 and most all internet news sites. No newspapers either except on line and I will only buy The New York Post if the cover is a collectors item and then I will buy up to 5 copies.

If there is a show I really need to view I will have either my sister or mother in-law video tape it. If it is a good one I want to be able to view it when I want and as many times as I want. If it stinks I can tape over it.
168 posted on 04/27/2003 8:56:41 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth.....)
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To: Fawnn
Julian Phillips seems to me to be the type too lazy to do enough research to formulate his own opinions, so he repeats those lies and thinks that makes him profound.

Agreed; and Fox is a blessing, for that very reason. I wasn't implying that you tune out simply because someone doesn't share all your views, at least not intentionally. But people, psychologically speaking, cannot comfortably listen to anyone whose viewpoint is diametrically opposed to their own, no matter how articulately presented. It's called cognitive dissonance: "A person who has dissonant or discrepant cognitions is said to be in a state of psychological dissonance, which is experienced as unpleasant psychological tension....If dissonance is experienced as an unpleasant drive state, the individual is motivated to reduce it."

Reducing it means taking some kind of action, i.e., changing the channel, justifying your own belief, looking for flaws in the "wrong" views listened to, or, ultimately changing your own previously held opinon. The problem with simply changing one's opinion, however, is that depending upon the importance of your previously held opinions (no matter how wrong, i.e., Julian's in this case), most people seek to justify their wrong opinions because to change an opinion means to admit one was wrong. The more important it is for someone to believe they are right, or their opinion is correct, the harder it will be for them to alter their erroneous beliefs. Therefore, people like Julian seek to justify why they're right.

But the honest, and logical, refutations by other Fox anchors/analysts have been pursuading many liberals to alter their illogical and unsubstantiated beliefs. Up against this logic, Julian's continued diatribes are exposed for what they are: foolishness.

169 posted on 04/27/2003 9:08:44 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: EggsAckley
Well, that's why I have to look it up!

Embarassedly shuffling away now.

170 posted on 04/27/2003 9:36:00 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: ConservativeMan55
Balanced news is fine, but they won't help themselves by giving air time to a flaming idiot.
171 posted on 04/27/2003 9:36:54 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Miss Marple
Heheheh. [laughing WITH you, not AT you...] </;o)
173 posted on 04/27/2003 9:44:01 AM PDT by EggsAckley ( Midnight at the Oasis)
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To: rabidralph
But we are opposed to Julian because he's black.

I hope that prejudice is not the reason for these complaints, but I fear that you are right and that it may be a factor in some cases.

Certainly, the call-him-President-everytime complaint is so nitpicking and insubstantial that it begs for some other explanation for the hostility. (I sure didn't use "President" everytime I referred to X42. Indeed, it pained me to use "President" in the same sentence with DIRT-XXX-POTUS' last name.)

Maybe you've hit on the right explanation in some cases. On the other hand, I don't find Phillips' to have a very appealing on-air personality. (I sure would NOT ask that Fox fire him over it.)

All in all, and as you implied on another post on this thread, we should probably discuss more substantial issues. Maybe the other guy's ties or the blondes hairdo could have some threads started about them?

PS: enjoyed your great photos from the CU rally of April 12!

174 posted on 04/27/2003 10:43:47 AM PDT by BillF (Sorry anti-America leftists, Saddam has left the planet!)
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To: Liberty
"Juliet Huddy is terminally shallow and dumb."

Mega-bump. I've written about her before. She's an idiot. They should never let her espouse about military procedure, as she has tried to do before.
175 posted on 04/27/2003 11:20:25 AM PDT by cgk (Op. Iraqi Freedom Hero Tribute: http://home.earthlink.net/~mrskoz/index.html)
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To: BillF
Thanks, BillF. I still have a ton to scan and post.
176 posted on 04/27/2003 11:34:01 AM PDT by rabidralph (You gotta learn to pick your fights, and this ain't one of them.)
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To: BillF
But we are opposed to Julian because he's black.

I hope that prejudice is not the reason for these complaints, but I fear that you are right and that it may be a factor in some cases.


This has nothing to do with Julian's color. It's all about how lousy he is on the weekend edition of Fox & Friends.

Julian isn't as good at it as are most other news announcers on that network, but he'd far better parked in front of a teleprompter reading the news than he is at trying to come up with an original thought.

If some of you insist that we reduce this to color, Lauren Phillips has filled in on Fox & Friends in the past. She's good!

As for Julian being on the show to "attact" liberals: It's been my experience that liberals avoid Fox News because "it isn't cool" to watch it. (One has to wonder how "respected" Walter Conkite would have been had there actually been competition in the news in his heyday.)
177 posted on 04/27/2003 11:39:21 AM PDT by Fawnn (I think therefore I'm halfway there....)
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To: StopThePress
ping again!
179 posted on 04/27/2003 12:40:18 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Do not play polo with George W. Bush.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Whine much about this kind of bs?
180 posted on 04/27/2003 1:55:43 PM PDT by lurky
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