Led Zeppelin Flying High with New Concert Discs

Reuters (via Yahoo) ^ | 05/28/03 | Dean Goodman

[LurkerNoMore!]

And will keep waiting, since most banjoe pickers don't have a full set.

[LurkerNoMore!]

nix the e nix the e nix the e

[Senator Pardek]

And nix making a joke out of mine!

[MetalHeadConservative35]

I wish I had back all the hours I wasted trying to figure out "The Rain Song" in standard tuning as a kid, until someone told me it was D-G-D-G-C-D

thats fun to toy with heck imma play with that tuning little later (bit of a break from my Low B-E-A-D-G-B tuning lol

btw in case you didnt know...kasmir is D-A-D-G-A-D hehe :)

save ya some more hours that way

[Senator Pardek]

Those old LPs had better fidelity and were easier on the ears (of course they were easy to scratch too and usually had hiss in the background). The difference in sound quality I guess is because digitial recording only "samples" sound whereas analog electo magnetic recording picked up almost all the sound. Perhaps with CDs going to the DVD format some of this disparity in sound quality will be closed.

Actually, CDs are superior to LPs frequency response-wise, and superior in the realm of dymanic range.

Why do LPs sound better to you and myself?

Because of being used to its sound, and THD. A digitally recorded and mastered album would not sound too good on vinyl, I would imagine.

[Senator Pardek]

One of these days, I'm gonna string it up E-E-E-E-E-E (all high Es) and play slide.

[MetalHeadConservative35]

ive done that!!! its fun

btw the strings i use for my tuning are 60-44-32-17-17-13 so if you had any questions on how to tune that low there ya go

try all Gs thats fun too

[LurkerNoMore!]

I'M SORRY.

It was your joke, and I shouldn't have made it funnier.

[WRhine]

Actually, CDs are superior to LPs frequency response-wise, and superior in the realm of dymanic range.

Why do LPs sound better to you and myself?

I don't doubt you are right about that. Could it be that with digital sampling there is less information to carry around so any frequency changes happen quicker, at the expense of resonance? I don't know, maybe it's like you suggested. Anyway, there are quite a few musicians who have said that they can tell the difference between CDs and LPs and that the latter has better sound quality...for whatever reason.

[dennisw]

I miss that grit that even pop bands of the 60s had like the Fifth Dimension. ...................

So true. Same for the Mamas and the Papas. Most of their stuff I cannot listen to but their hits are so beautiful. So immaculate. Monday Monday ...Can't trust that day

Just listen to the harmonies.

My original take on Zep is that their music is really folk music. In that it's under produced, under instrumented, minimalist compared to the pop garbage today. Remember that Zep was pop in it's day.

[Drew68]

In that it's under produced, under instrumented, minimalist compared to the pop garbage today. Remember that Zep was pop in it's day.

I think you have something there.

There is a reason that all the bands who try to sound like Zep wind up failing --they try too hard and over-produce their sound.

Listen to Jimmy's guitars. They are not that distorted nor that loud. Each instrument is just so well produced that it deceives the listener into thinking that there is something there that isn't.

I don't know if I'd call Zep "pop" as I tend to think of 1970s pop as AM radio top-40 which Zep never was. Keep in mind that like the Beatles, Stones and The Who, Zep never won nor was nominated for a grammy -the measure which defined and still defines "pop" music.

[dennisw]

I have to hit and run here ..... How many times did Led Zeppelin play "Top of the Pops" BBC show in the UK? For this and other reasons I call them pop. At least they were back then. ....

These days you will hear them on a classic rock station. But back then on pop and rock stations.

Pagey laid 10-20 guitars on some cuts. He double/triple tracked many more. This is minimalist and under instrumented compared to today. No ambient stuff lurking in the back ground for Zep. How many track recorder did they play into? 4? 8? Yup, they are playing folk music. You can contrast this with the Plant/Page remake of "Kashmir" circa 1997. That was a full blown multi instrument extravaganza, which I like in it's own right

[fightu4it]

Zeppelin died when Bonzo died. RIP.

[Drew68]

Zeppelin died when Bonzo died. RIP.

Yes they did. And this is why a reunion would probably only disappoint fans.

Unless Zep could find a drummer with the skill and the sound of Bonham (Dave Grohl is, IMHO, the only one who might fit the bill) there is no way they could capture the "bombast" of their sound.

I read a recent interview where Page laments playing together at Live Aid in 1985. They used Phil Collins on drums and Page said that Collins basically sucked and treated the whole thing as a joke.

Page was right.

As big as a Zep fan as I am, I think history shows that it would probably be best if the three of them never perform as Zeppelin again. I doubt they could rekindle the magic of what they were.

[Im Your Huckleberry]

Amen.

[Last Visible Dog]

It was Keith Moon late drummer of the Who, who I think said, "would sink like a Lead Zepplin." (see: Kid's Are Alright)

Actually that statement was the more standard "will go over like a lead balloon" and the band turned balloon into zeppelin (as I understand it)

[Last Visible Dog]

I don't know the name of the guitarist they had (chunky dude with shaved head and was wearing an eye patch......not exactly "rock star" looks, trust me) actually did a more than passable job with Livgren's famous licks.

That would be Richard Williams – he is an original member of Kansas – he has always been the main lead guitarist and he is the one that did most of the famous licks. Kerry Livgren was the second guitarist and second keyboard player in the band. Livgren was the main songwriter but Williams has always been the main lead guitarist.

[Last Visible Dog]

Nothin' wrong with a show! The best, both musically and entertainmentwise, concert I ever saw was performed by the Tubes. That was a great band before their short-lived pop success with She's a Beauty!

The 1970's era Tubes were an amazing band - great edgy show, great players. They lost me in the "She's a beauty" era.

[activationproducts]

Collins is a better drummer than Bonzo or his kid. Not to mention Dave Grohl who is a garage band grade musician.

[Last Visible Dog]

October Project— now disfunct.. had 3 CD’s in the 90s on Columbia.

Right on brother - Marina Belica's vocals are a amazing – GUESS WHAT!!! October Project reformed and released an album this spring and is currently doing gigs. Check out their web site:

BTW: I think thier first album is amazing and should be in eveybody's collection

NOTE: the bands early stuff was on Epic