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The Perils of Peekaboo America's teen peep show: Has 'slutware' gone too far?
SF Chronicle ^ | Sunday, July 27, 2003 | J.A. Getzlaff

Posted on 07/29/2003 9:57:54 AM PDT by presidio9

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:43:06 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

On a bustling Saturday afternoon a silent, generational war started at Abercrombie & Fitch, the teen retail clothing store in the San Francisco Shopping Centre, an urban mall at Market and Fifth streets.

A girl of maybe 15, wearing braces and hip-hugger jeans, fingered a shrunken, see-through T-shirt that coyly advertised "Hottie Brand Cocoa." Her mother, noting her daughter's interest, eyeballed the stack of shirts and grimaced. She moved purposefully on, but her daughter lingered, hope in her eyes. After a minute, she gave up.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: abercrombie; ageofconsentlaws; boycott; brittanyspears; buttcleavage; clintonlegacy; culturewar; fashion; flashthethong; itsjustsex; leeringtrolls; lewinsky; monica; monicalewinsky; mtv; mycousinknowsclay; notmydaughter; permissiveparents; retail; slutorama; slutwear; teens
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To: MEGoody
LOL. Your Dick Tracy-style wrist TV. Or a chip implanted in your brain with a heads-up display. Or standing in the lobby at the local Circuit City on the way home from work. ;)
101 posted on 07/29/2003 12:32:48 PM PDT by tom h
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To: Darksheare
I don't have any kids (thank goodness) but this is a great argument for school uniforms.
102 posted on 07/29/2003 12:34:01 PM PDT by exile (Exile)
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To: exile
I did have a step-daughter.
She'd be horrified by some of what some of tehse kids are wearing.
But not before jokingly asking me how much the hooker dressing kids cost for the evening.

Then there's the women who wear lightweight sundresses and nothing underneath, walk at top speed so the hem flies up, and think nothing of it.
The one such woman that afore-mentioned step-child and I saw, smiled at us as she walked by showing the world she was a natural redhead. I coughed and spluttered, my step-daughter laughed herself silly about it.
103 posted on 07/29/2003 12:37:36 PM PDT by Darksheare ("I didn't say it wouldn't burn, I said it wouldn't hurt.")
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To: presidio9
If I have a daughter she's either going to a Convent (and I'm not Catholic) or to the Gypsies.

Either way she's never having sex. Ever.

Seriously, she'd never get out of the house dressed like that. The way I see some of these 14 and 15 year olds (and much younger) dressed, only speaks to me of the evils of the Boomer generation. It's the "do it in the road", nihilistic boomer generation of parents that are the ones letting their daugthers dress this way.

The collapse of our society is now in free-fall.

Like George Carlin, I intend to just sit and watch it circle the drain.

Any parent that would let their daughter dress like a slut deserves it when she comes home knocked up and asking them to raise the kid.

Our society cannot survive this.

104 posted on 07/29/2003 12:39:19 PM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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To: Darksheare
That would be basis for shutting them down, most places.
105 posted on 07/29/2003 12:41:03 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield (TANSTAAFL)
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To: presidio9
The illustrator clearly has a fine sense of the feminine form.
106 posted on 07/29/2003 12:41:08 PM PDT by Interious
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To: Owl_Eagle
My wife and I have a four-year old daughter as well, and we've discussed the same thing many times. Make-up for second graders is not that uncommon anymore! Some parents have lost control of their pre-teens, just like your Eagles have lost control of their roster! How's Duce and Jerome doing? Oh, that's right, you haven't seen them yet in camp. Sorry, couldn't resist. Hail to the Redskins who won as many Super Bowls last year as Philadelphia ever has!!!! Seriously, we're worried about what its going to be like in ten years. God help our country!
107 posted on 07/29/2003 12:43:53 PM PDT by HenryLeeII
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To: Britton J Wingfield
If there were a controlling legal authority.
No-one polices them, at least not here in New York that I have ever seen or heard of.
108 posted on 07/29/2003 12:44:07 PM PDT by Darksheare ("I didn't say it wouldn't burn, I said it wouldn't hurt.")
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To: cruiserman
Thanks!
109 posted on 07/29/2003 12:44:50 PM PDT by general_re (Trust is a trick that dogs play. They don't want you to know how delicious they are.)
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To: bedolido
I was kidding... this is sick stuff. gender-neutralism. What's next, boys wearing pads and pad-belts (yes, that's what I mean)

Making a clean breast of fashion [Boobs for men as a fashion accessory]


110 posted on 07/29/2003 12:51:02 PM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
That is frightening to say the least.
111 posted on 07/29/2003 12:52:16 PM PDT by Darksheare ("I didn't say it wouldn't burn, I said it wouldn't hurt.")
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To: Owl_Eagle; maica
My kids go to a traditional Catholic elementary school. The girls wear plaid jumpers with white blouses, the hems not more than a few inches over the knee.

I wouldn't let them go to a public school "Ho Academy" for a million dollars.

112 posted on 07/29/2003 12:58:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: bc2
It's your right to tattoo "MORON" on the front of your forehead too. Completely your right.

SierraTimes Online News

113 posted on 07/29/2003 1:00:09 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Whoops, pasted the wrong link. Disregard.
114 posted on 07/29/2003 1:01:50 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: HenryLeeII

When my daughter was 2, her aunt bought her a leather mini skirt.  For a two year old.  A leather mini skirt.  Lost on me was the fact that it was "cute".  Needless to say that mistake won't be repeated again.  Honestly, it turns my stomach just to think about it.  Like looking at child porn.

(BTW- what goes 10-6, 8-8, 8-8, 7-9?  LOL, you KNEW I'd get that in there.)

Could be some sleepless nights ahead with a little girl.  I'll enjoy the time while she's young and teach her little brother to snitch on her.

(off topic [again]- not worried about J McDougal yet.  C. Simon signed the morning of our first pre season game his rookie year and started every game that year.  DL is easy to pick up.  Pretty much any other spot can be a big problem though.  Staley's badly over playing his hand.  Buckhalter is healthy and looking both quick and strong and Westbrook is ready to make further contributions.  Staley should do everything he can to garner whatever playing time he can in order to sign a better deal NEXT YEAR, ELSE WHERE.)

 

 

Owl_Eagle

" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"

115 posted on 07/29/2003 1:04:27 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel ("Europeans lost the will to live the moral life long ago." - Ben Shapiro)
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To: petitfour
Tattooing has come a long way in 20 years, although a lot of "scratch shops" still practice really horrible tattooing procedures.

Our shop, Love Hate Tattoo, uses state of the art sterilization techniques, including all autoclave sterilization, all disposable, and single use tattoo equipment including needles, ink, inkwells, disposable razors, etc. We are careful not to cross-contaminate anything, and take sterilization very seriously. We make people fill out a release form, saying they do not have any blood diseases. As far as we know, we have never had a single infection, and we intend to keep it that way.

We don't do "tattoo parties" or do tattoos anywhere other than our sterile-friendly environment of the tattoo shop. We use all autoclave sterilization for our gear, and have our autoclaves spore-tested on a monthly basis. Customers are free to inspect them if they wish (but most folks don't even know what an autoclave is!).

You will find a lot of "scratch shops" commonly known as "street shops" that do not take pride in their sterilization techniques or who do not practice sterile procedures. Besides our experience in the field, and superior artistry, that is what sets us, as a "custom shop" apart from these "street shops".

If you are interested in getting a tattoo, make sure you go to a reputable shop, not just some place your buddy got a tattoo. No matter if you're friends with some guy who does tattoos, be wary!!! Ask to inspect the autoclaves to make sure they're in proper working order. Ask them if all of their gear is single use, and sterile! Watch them do tattoos, and make sure the artists are using all single use, disposable items, wearing gloves, taking them off and replacing them with new ones when they use the phone, grab a marker, etc.

Most importantly, don't go "looking for a deal". Folks will go and spend $200 on a winter coat, but complain about a tattoo costs $150. The average tattoo will run you roughly $100 per hour. I can most likely give you a reference for your area if this is something you (or anyone else) is interested in.

take care!

116 posted on 07/29/2003 1:13:16 PM PDT by bc2 (http://www.thinkforyourself.us)
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To: BMiles2112
Daughters are most likely to marry someone just like their fathers. I have seen pairings where the son-in-law and father-in-law seemed to be opposites, but they shared character traits.

I imagine your daughter will be attracted to someone like you and he will value her as much as you do.

The lack of love in so many families is very distressing to me. In contrast, an investment of love and affection pays forever. I was swimming with my granddaughters and the little one looked up to say, "We love you, Grampy." The hugs and kisses never stop because their father, our son, is so affectionate with them. My wife is the happiest Grammy in the world.
117 posted on 07/29/2003 1:13:24 PM PDT by sine_nomine (I am pro-choice...the moment the baby has a choice.)
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To: Owl_Eagle
Does your daughter's aunt have daughters? If so, that should be real interesting.

Two questions: 1) What goes "Twelve and four CHOKE! Twelve and four CHOKE!"? 2)How do you spell Lombardi Trophy? Oh, sorry, you're from Philly! My bad! ;>) The Skins receiving corps is deep and fast, and our offense overall is going to be one of the fastest in the NFC, so you're going to need to put Jerome on roller skates!! I'm going to our training camp on Friday, so I'll try to get you some winners' autographs! ;>) Seriously, though, is there a division with four defenses as good as the NFC East? All four have top-ten potential. Should be good smash-mouth time this year! Best of luck (as long as you all lose).

118 posted on 07/29/2003 1:16:30 PM PDT by HenryLeeII
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To: weegee
I don't understand why they would even do this... why would they have a man wearing a bra in a fashion show? Is this to keep cross-dressers in style?

Sick! Sick! Sick!

119 posted on 07/29/2003 1:17:02 PM PDT by bedolido (please let my post be on an even number... small even/odd phobia here)
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To: Travis McGee

My kids go to a traditional Catholic elementary school. The girls wear plaid jumpers with white blouses, the hems not more than a few inches over the knee.

The Philadelphia Public Schools instituted something very similar to that a year (maybe 2?) ago.  Reportedly, it's helped in areas of discipline and attendance.

Attendance?  I have a friend who was a Phila P.S. teacher and related to me a story about one of her students who missed THREE days of school because he couldn't find an outfit to match his new sneakers.  Amazing.  (not that I'm suggesting he'd have missed all that much or gleaned anything from what was being taught anyway).

 

Owl_Eagle

" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"

120 posted on 07/29/2003 1:19:02 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel ("Europeans lost the will to live the moral life long ago." - Ben Shapiro)
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