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In Defense Of Prostitution
Legal Affairs ^ | Sept/Oct '03 | By Heidi Fleiss as told to Nadya Labi

Posted on 08/21/2003 7:06:56 AM PDT by dogbrain

TEN YEARS AGO, I WAS ARRESTED AT MY HOME IN BEVERLY HILLS for pandering, which the dictionary defines as acting as "a go-between in sexual intrigue." In other words, I was a madam. After a jury convicted me of three counts of pandering, the verdicts were thrown out, but the government didn't give up. It made me the Al Capone of prostitution. I spent three years in a federal penitentiary in Dublin, Calif., for conspiracy, tax evasion, and money laundering. But it was the sex that got me in trouble.

When I was a Hollywood madam, I had between 20 and 70 girls working for me and once made $97,000 in a single day on commissions. My take was 40 percent of whatever fee my girls received and of any tips over $1,000. (Compare that to prison, where I made about a dime an hour cleaning pots and taking out the trash.)

When I was in the sex trade, I ran an 85 percent cash business. I dealt with the richest people on earth—men who run countries and this country's top businesses. Most of them preferred to pay in cash. The actor Charlie Sheen was one of my few customers who wrote checks, but looking back I now realize he was a class act. He paid his bills, girls liked him, and he was well-endowed.

I didn't get involved in prostitution because I needed money. I had the kind of childhood that everyone dreams about, with five brothers and sisters, camping trips, pillow fights, and marathon Monopoly games. We weren't like the Britney Spears generation—the girls today who look like they're ready to have sex at 9. I started a babysitting circle when I wasn't much older than that and soon all the parents in the neighborhood wanted me to watch over their children. Even then I had an innate business sense. I started farming out my friends to meet the demand. My mother showered me with love and my father, a pediatrician, would ask me at the dinner table, "What did you learn today?"

At 19, I began dating a 57-year-old multimillionaire. The relationship was good, but when it ended I realized that he had won every fight we had because I had no career, nothing to stand on. So I got a license in real estate. But before long, I was wrapped up in an entirely different world. I began going to Helena's, a popular nightclub in Los Angeles run by Jack Nicholson's former housekeeper, and met a bookie who later introduced me to Madam Alex, a "businesswoman" whose employees were known for their good looks and popularity. (I didn't know at the time that I was there to pay off the guy's gambling debt.) I was expecting a sexy glamour queen like Faye Dunaway in the TV movie Beverly Hills Madam. But Madam Alex was a 5' 3" bald-headed Filipina in a transparent muu muu. We hit it off.

My first john—I was then 22—was gorgeous. I would have slept with him for free if I had met him in a bar or on a blind date. We had a great night, and I made $3,000 after Madam Alex's 40-percent cut was deducted from my fee.

I'm glad I learned the business in the trenches, but my career as a hooker was short-lived. I'm not the California dream girl, and sexually, I'm lazy. The profession didn't play to my strengths, which lie in business, not bed. After Madam Alex and I had a falling-out in 1989, I decided to leave prostitution altogether and go back to college to become an art curator. (I had dropped out of junior college during my first semester when I was 17.)

So why did I become a madam? I had tons of beautiful friends and lots of great connections from traveling the world with my ex-boyfriend. One day I just realized that I could run a sex business better than anyone else I knew. My first client was a Swiss businessman who was in Los Angeles with six acquaintances. I set the men up with some girls I knew and all of them were very happy. The word spread and demand snowballed after that. I tried to stay in college and run the business at the same time, but it was too hard skipping out of class to arrange get-togethers over the school's pay phone.

I would fly girls to meet clients in St. Tropez, London, or wherever they were in the world. Just from talking to a man, I knew what kind of girl he'd be interested in.

I made sure never to send a prostitute into an unsafe situation or one where she felt humiliated or degraded. I was always conscious of how prostitution could lower a woman's self-esteem and I didn't want anyone who worked for me to feel that way. My clients were some of the richest men in the world. They wanted to look the best and live the longest. They were at the doctors regularly. I never had one girl come down with an STD, not even crabs. But I told my girls that if they ever felt uncomfortable with a client, they should call me and I would get them out of there—no matter where they were. I made my first million after only four months in the business.

I wouldn't recommend prostitution as a career because it doesn't have great long-term prospects. Still, a woman should have the right to do what she wants with her body...

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To: dogbrain
What do you call a woman who marries into an ocean view home, a Mercedes, a daily massage, and is filing for divorce a year later?

As a woman, I have more respect for a someone who is upfront about what they are after than those who aren't. And they aren't all young and they aren't all female. The world is full of folks looking for someone else to take care of them.

41 posted on 08/21/2003 8:24:12 AM PDT by najida (What handbasket? And where did you say we were going?)
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To: bird4four4
If you pay a girl $500 for the act of sex it is illegal.

Some places.

42 posted on 08/21/2003 8:26:19 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: bird4four4
What is the difference?

The crap game is at my garage. The lotto tickets are at the government locations. The casino is open 24 hrs a day.

What is the difference?

43 posted on 08/21/2003 8:28:17 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: MEGoody
Indeed. Well said. I was thinking much the same thing. And Ms. Fleiss never, NEVER looks happy. For her, it's always been about the money, ch-ching, and power. That's all. She used and manipulated those beautiful (dare I say more beautiful than her?) young women to her own financial advantage. Ever heard her father, Dr. Fleiss? When her trial was on air, he was all over the news. It explains a lot.
44 posted on 08/21/2003 8:31:34 AM PDT by fortunecookie (longtime lurker and new poster)
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To: Protagoras
Well the differnce there is that the state can capitolize on lotto and casino, but since you and your buddies can wager in your garage without paying the state, it is illegal. If they could find a way to tax you on it, it would be hunky-dorey.
45 posted on 08/21/2003 8:34:57 AM PDT by bird4four4
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To: The Pheonix
"...buys her a very expensive dinner, and she sleeps with him, is this considered some form of prostitution ?"

Good question.
Next time, I'll try offering my date the 'cash value of the meal', 2 hours of discussion centering around the joys of cat ownership, karma, and our gay friends, THEN ask for sex.

46 posted on 08/21/2003 8:37:18 AM PDT by dogbrain ("Life is hard son. It's harder if you're stupid.")
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To: dogbrain
When my wife asked me to rub her feet for 20 minutes, then we can have sex, is that prostitution?
47 posted on 08/21/2003 8:38:46 AM PDT by bird4four4
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To: dogbrain
Legal Affairs...nice double entendre.
48 posted on 08/21/2003 8:39:02 AM PDT by Cooter
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To: bird4four4
file under:

"What NOT to ask your wife"

49 posted on 08/21/2003 8:40:11 AM PDT by dogbrain ("Life is hard son. It's harder if you're stupid.")
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To: bird4four4

that sounds more like bribery.....
50 posted on 08/21/2003 8:40:28 AM PDT by The Pheonix
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To: dogbrain
Bump for later viewing.
51 posted on 08/21/2003 8:43:35 AM PDT by Saturnalia (My name is Matt Foley and I live in a VAN down by the RIVER.)
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To: bird4four4
That's what I thought. As usual, the laws have nothing to do with right and wrong, just who gets the money.
52 posted on 08/21/2003 8:44:38 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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54 posted on 08/21/2003 8:52:31 AM PDT by dogbrain ("Life is hard son. It's harder if you're stupid.")
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To: The Pheonix
eg, a guy dates a girl , buys her a very expensive dinner, and she sleeps with him, is this considered some form of prostitution ??????

or a guy buys a lady friend some very expensive gifts, and she sleeps with him ??

Are you calling all women prostitutes or all men johns?

55 posted on 08/21/2003 9:08:55 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (a 'true conservative' would rather keep Davis than elect Arnold just so they can say 'I told you so')
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

I'm actually asking a question, not callng anybody any names
56 posted on 08/21/2003 9:12:00 AM PDT by The Pheonix
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
As I said earlier, the English Common Law does NOT consider prostitution a crime, but in their Laws, solicitating sex for money (like street-walking), is a crime.

And the reason for this logic may be just that, that there are very grey areas, ie, a guy dates a girl, buys her an expensive dinner, and then she had sex with him, and then, wham bam , the DA charged her with prostitution. Just where do we draw the line???????

smart people, these English
57 posted on 08/21/2003 9:17:37 AM PDT by The Pheonix
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; Viva Le Dissention; The Phoenix
So what IS the difference?
Is it a cash/check/charge monetary point?
What about food stamps?
58 posted on 08/21/2003 9:17:54 AM PDT by dogbrain ("Life is hard son. It's harder if you're stupid.")
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To: dogbrain

or "payment in kind"
59 posted on 08/21/2003 9:19:05 AM PDT by The Pheonix
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To: dogbrain
Next time, I'll try offering my date the 'cash value of the meal', 2 hours of discussion centering around the joys of cat ownership, karma, and our gay friends, THEN ask for sex.

Goodness gracious! What is the "cash value" of two hours of discussion centering around the joys of cat ownership, karma, and your gay friends? I'm up to $250,000 right there!

60 posted on 08/21/2003 9:19:31 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (That's shaken, not stirred.)
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