Teens have right to have sex, lawyer argues (Huh?!?)

Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 8.21.03 | JAMAAL ABDUL-ALIM

[rwfromkansas]

Some people might think the Earth will be destroyed tomorrow since I actually agree with you, as a Christian conservative.

Look, in the Puritan days, people would routinely married at 14.

Enforcing kid morals is the job of parents, not the govt.

[At _War_With_Liberals]

These prosecutors don't go after Nambla nearly as much as they should because nambla has power. Going after a 14 year old girl with an incompetent parent is much easier.

[At _War_With_Liberals]

I should in that circumstance.

[MetalHeadConservative35]

they act like this would never happen,

13-16 years olds screwing...nothing new there heard about it all the time in school and still do today,

[At _War_With_Liberals]

I guess having ADD has some advantages...

[WOSG]

"i believe the family should straighten them out by any means possible. "

I agree, ideally. It's unfortunate that (as the article made clear) these kids were from homes so fractured the parents felt they had to turn to the authorities as the only way they could 'control' the situation. As such, the "in loco parentis" behavior of state authorities is better than the alternatives (runaways and JDs without controls; read the part where the boy got probation if he stayed out of trouble but couldnt get through the probation period, that's a 'gimme' that this is more than just innocents caught 'at play').

Agree on the drug side of it, though; unless there is true psychosis, disorder, or depression, that's just an invitation to encourage future drug use.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

The teens even "challenged" the woman to call police. So she did.

There would have been no police call in my home. There may have been one from a neighbor reporting "shots fired".

[Publius6961]

The INTENT of the law is to criminalize adults who sexually prey upon and exploit children.

If that is true then the law is a ass.
Explain to me how being preyed upon and exploited by someone your own age is different?

[At _War_With_Liberals]

Overall, its just frustrating because there are no solutions that are working that will straighten these kids out.

[Melas]

I have big time problems with this. Not with the mother, not with the children, but the powers that be.

Sexual assault? Call me silly, but I kinda associate assault with force, or at the very least adult guile used to unfairly breach an innocent child's defenses.

If these little delinquents wind up on a sexual offenders/predators list for life, a horrible miscarriage of justice has been done. Whatever happned to being charged with plain Jane deliquency?

[Lorianne]

It is different because two people cannot "prey" upon each other. Adults have a huge advantage in preying upon less experienced, naive children. The article does not say that any force was used. And they are both being prosecuted for "sexual assault" on each other.

That is insane.

In a true sexual assault case, the adult is the legally culpable party. The child is not legally liable. So how can two children be legally liable?

[mansion]

Wow. I can't believe the mother turned them in! That's basically like saying to the government "I'm a crappy mom. Why don't you take over for me?"

I'm just glad that my mother never turned ME in when she found out that my girlfriend and myself were "assaulting" each other. We never realized that we were both multiple felons!

[Lorianne]

What about the boy's parents?

[nopardons]

Do YOU have any children of your own ? Are you even all that much older than these two children ?

You couldn't be father from the truth and/or reality. Fourteen year olds, even when phyically well developed, have no , NO " right " to engage in sexual intercourse. They can't drive, they can't vote, they can't go into the military, can't get a job ( except for baby sitting or snow shoveling or some such ) without their parents' permission, they can't legally wed, they can't buy alcohol nor tobacco legally, can't sign a contract of any sort and yet YOU think it's pkay for them to engage in sexual activities ?

And, " knowing the consequences of a teen pregnancy " is one of the least prerequisits of the matter. These children are belligerent, have lawyers who blame it all on ADD, parental abandonment ( my guess iis children of divorce ), and a passel of other garbage. They are incorageables. And yet, YOU want to " let them just do it " ? Are they base animals, or human beings ? You act as though they are wild beasts.

[nopardons]

Right you are and I find it shocking and disheartening, to see supposed Conservatives, on this thread, spewing such extreme liberal hogwash, as the one you replied to.

[nopardons]

And you're proud of this ?

[drjoe]

" I would not have lived. Dad would have killed us both. Just another example of how we are all sliding down the slippery slope and not doing a damn thing about it."

so the result of your sliding down the slippery slope and your father "doing a damn thing about it" would have been to have him murder the two of you. Splendid! Magnificent solution of a personal social problem.

[usadave]

Let them do it, for crying out loud. But it would be nice if those kids knew the consequences of a teen pregnancy.

I have a feeling that these two teenagers are going to have problematic lives.

[nopardons]

" Going to ... " ? They have utterly damaged lives right now ! Both are out of control children, who have little regard for themselves and less for anyone else.

[MattAMiller]

Linke better get ready for a truck-load full of judicial smackdown. He's a hotdogging idiot.