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Area Professor Breaks New Ground On Maya
San Antonio Express ^ | 9-28-2003 | Roger Croteau

Posted on 09/28/2003 5:04:31 PM PDT by blam

Area professor breaks new ground on Maya

By Roger Croteau
San Antonio Express-News

Web Posted : 09/28/2003 12:00 AM

Findings by a Texas State University-San Marcos professor at an archaeological site in Belize have pushed back the date for the rise of the Maya civilization to 300 years earlier than previously believed. Anthropology professor James J. Garber has worked at the site, known as Blackman Eddy, each summer since 1990. Although smaller than many other Maya ruins, it was a major cultural center in the Upper Belize Valley.

"I would say it's a very important finding," said Sandra Noble, executive director of the Florida-based Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies. "People in this field will take notice. We are realizing what we thought we knew is just scratching the surface."

The site was discovered by chance in the 1980s, when a bulldozer doing road work in the area hit a pyramid, destroying half of it.

It was a stroke of luck for Garber. Central American governments prohibit archaeologists from destroying pyramids' outer structures, so they are limited to trenching, coring and tunneling to see what's inside.

Because the Blackman Eddy pyramid was badly damaged and in danger of collapse, Belize authorities allowed Garber and his team of students from what was then Southwest Texas State University to excavate it to bedrock.

"It was an unfortunate incident, but from that we were able to acquire quite a bit of information," Garber said.

It was believed that the indigenous groups living in Central America before 800 B.C. were hunter-gatherers.

But Garber found that they had a much more complex society, with sophisticated agriculture, long-distance trade routes, and an established religious and political center.

The Maya erected new pyramids on top of older ones, concealing previous building phases. Garber and his students took the Blackman Eddy pyramid apart layer by layer, discovering 13 building phases over 2,000 years.

Maya civilization reached its peak around A.D. 600.

"As we dug through the layers of the pyramid, we hit 800 B.C. and kept on going down to about 1100 B.C., where we were finding settled agricultural peoples making sophisticated pottery. So we've pushed the dates for the Maya about 300 years," Garber said.

"It is a unique finding, but my guess is that if archaeologists had the opportunity to dismantle pyramids in other places, they would find the same thing," he added.

The high quality of the early ceramics indicates that a sophisticated society existed at 1100 B.C., he said. Exotic goods, greenstone, obsidian and marine shells also were found, showing long-distance trade was well established by that time.

"It is also interesting that the earliest inhabitants at Blackman Eddy don't seem to be Maya," Garber said.

"From the artifacts we've found, they look similar to groups from coastal Honduras and highland Guatemala that we know were not Maya speakers," he said. "These groups possibly influenced the Maya or made it possible for them to create their civilization before they were absorbed or replaced by Maya groups."

Noble said the Maya established the concept of zero and made other major advances in mathematics, astronomy, art and politics.

"Our schools are still very Eurocentric," Noble said. "People do not appreciate the significance of the Maya civilization. Instead of looking to Egypt, Greece and Rome, we can look to the extremely high ancient civilization in our own back yard."

Garber's findings are to be published by University Press in November. The book, "The Ancient Maya of the Belize Valley: Half a Century of Archaeological Research," is expected to make a splash among archaeologists, Noble said.

"This is a big deal," she said.

Garber plans to return to Belize this month on a less pleasant trip, a court hearing in which he will try to have a manslaughter charge dismissed.

In July, on a return trip from the dig site, he was driving a van full of students that lost its brakes on a steep hill approaching the San Ignacio town plaza.

He attempted to slow the vehicle by rubbing its tires against a curb, but the van jumped the curb, hitting and killing a pedestrian.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: belize; blackmaneddy; breaks; godsgravesglyphs; ground; maya; mayan; mayans; professor; pyramid; pyramids
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1 posted on 09/28/2003 5:04:31 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
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2 posted on 09/28/2003 5:08:54 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: blam
not Maya speakers," he said. "These groups possibly influenced the Maya or made it possible for them to create their civilization before they were absorbed or replaced by Maya groups."

Did they as well practice human sacrifice?
3 posted on 09/28/2003 5:13:05 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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"Our schools are still very Eurocentric," Noble said. "People do not appreciate the significance of the Maya civilization. Instead of looking to Egypt, Greece and Rome, we can look to the extremely high ancient civilization in our own back yard."

Our unique Western worldview, which includes the concept of the inherent value of the individual human being and the concept of inalienable rights which flows from it, has made our Eurocentric civilization the most successful, progressive, and humane in all of history.

It may be important to acknowledge the other teams in the league, but there is only one Super Bowl winner.

4 posted on 09/28/2003 5:20:02 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been suspended or banned.)
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Did they as well practice human sacrifice?

Probably.

I think the Egyptians were one of the very few settled civilizations who never did.

5 posted on 09/28/2003 5:26:58 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Been there. Done that. Got the T-Shirt. Sold it on e-bay.)
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Maybe the good professor can help out this short-lived FReeper.
6 posted on 09/28/2003 5:28:29 PM PDT by martin_fierro (Make a Jazz noise here)
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"Maybe the good professor can help out this short-lived FReeper."

LOL. I saw that.

7 posted on 09/28/2003 5:31:18 PM PDT by blam
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Thanks blam,

"Noble said the Maya established the concept of zero and made other major advances in mathematics, astronomy, art and politics."

Suppose mentioning Astronomy is enough, and then again not really, but nothing here about the Mayan Calendar?
8 posted on 09/28/2003 5:35:33 PM PDT by inPhase
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Texas State University-San Marcos is LBJ's old alma mater, Southwest Texas State Teachers College, in its most recent reincarnation.
9 posted on 09/28/2003 6:18:51 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
A Blast from the Past (2003). Thanks Blam.

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10 posted on 05/02/2006 8:36:54 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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I think the Egyptians were one of the very few settled civilizations who never did

Didn't the earliest Egyptians practice Regicide? It's not exactly human sacrifice but it is killing for the betterment of the collective.
11 posted on 05/02/2006 8:50:53 AM PDT by true_blue_texican (grateful texan!)
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He attempted to slow the vehicle by rubbing its tires against a curb, but the van jumped the curb, hitting and killing a pedestrian.


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The professor needs to get some driving lessons and stop killing innocent Mayan descendants.


12 posted on 05/02/2006 9:06:03 AM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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"Our schools are still very Eurocentric," Noble said. "People do not appreciate the significance of the Maya civilization. Instead of looking to Egypt, Greece and Rome, we can look to the extremely high ancient civilization in our own back yard."

I think the point is that our civilization was built on the foundation laid by Egypt/Greece/Rome, not on the Mayan civ.

13 posted on 05/02/2006 9:53:10 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Did they as well practice human sacrifice? Probably. I think the Egyptians were one of the very few settled civilizations who never did.

Hah! Nonsense.
First of all, most cultures, like the sumerians, never directly sacrificed humans.
Secondly, indirectly the egyptians DID sacrifice humans... they believed their Pharao was a living god and required people to die for him unquestioned. I think more then a few people, accused of disobediance etc, where throat-cut by a guard yelling "for the pharao" or something silly like that.
14 posted on 05/04/2006 7:21:33 AM PDT by S0122017
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To: blam
So begins the multi-directional propaganda, this direction being how advanced and smart the Mexican's root race were, aimed to ootze the American people into packing our electorate with political fools.

Excuse the cynicism, but it seems to be only route to sanity in the illegal situation.

15 posted on 05/04/2006 7:28:21 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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A scientist is researching how Mayans where capable of building stone piramids: how do you see this as evidence that science is conspiring to annihillate the american way of life? I don't see the link.

Besides, I think finding out how great and rich the Mayans used to be does not make the current Mayans happy. This is just science, trying to find out about the past. Stop interpreting everything politically.
I noticed from my fellow-science students very clearly that most dont give a rat's ass about politics and politicans. They are only interested in their field. If some politicians tries to twist a finding then get angry at that politician, not the scientist.
16 posted on 05/04/2006 10:25:16 AM PDT by S0122017
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"I think the Egyptians were one of the very few settled civilizations who never did."

Do a search on the 'Bog Mummies'. The sacrifices there are well preserved.

17 posted on 05/04/2006 10:44:34 AM PDT by blam
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I know you don't see the link now. For the last two decades, efforts to move the American public on contentious issues have started with scholarly works. I'm sure you can think of several examples yourself.

18 posted on 05/04/2006 10:54:46 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: blam

Bog mummies are found in Europe. Not Egypt AFAIK.


19 posted on 05/04/2006 1:26:22 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I am only an evil INTERN. I am still learning.)
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To: S0122017
First of all, most cultures, like the sumerians, never directly sacrificed humans.

*sigh* yes they did.

I think more then a few people, accused of disobediance etc, where throat-cut by a guard yelling "for the pharao" or something silly like that.

You equate the death penalty with human sacrifice.

Ok, we're done here.

20 posted on 05/04/2006 1:34:32 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I am only an evil INTERN. I am still learning.)
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