Baptists critiques 'open theism' as false doctrine

http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=6416 ^ | 2/04/04 | Jeff Robinson

[Corin Stormhands]

This kind of answer is why it was my belief that you were an open theology follower

Then you grossly misunderstood what Vern was saying.

[Corin Stormhands]

What Wrigley wants you to know RN is that the quote was from an Arminian who teaches at a Reformed College.

Simply scandalous isn't it?

[Wrigley]

What was scandelous was how it was presented.

[Corin Stormhands]

What was scandelous was how it was presented.

Saying something was "interesting" is scandalous?

Heaven help me if I ever find anything intriguing.

[Campion]

Catholicism has been associated with left-wing social causes for a long time now.

Yes, that's why ActUp desecrates Mass at St. Patrick's Cathedral by throwing condoms around. It's because we're their buddies. You should see how they treat their enemies.

It's no wonder gay marriage has come out of Catholic Massachusetts.

Gosh, and, you know, the Pope has come out foursquare against homosexual "marriage", in Massachusetts or anywhere else it's attempted. And the Massachusetts bishops have sent out pastoral letters rejecting it. Add that little datapoint to your rant.

I can speak from experience on this, having been (at one point in my life) one of those Massachusetts Catholics you're talking about. The powers that be in Massachusetts are viciously anti-Catholic, and anti-Christian. The Boston Globe, for example, is one of the most ugly, biased, left-wing pieces of trash you'll ever see. Integral to their ugliness is hatred of Christ, and hatred of Catholicism.

If you want to fault the Catholics in Massachusetts -- and feel free to do so -- fault them for voting and thinking like the Globe tells them to, not like the Church tells them to. IOW, fault them for not being Catholic enough.

The Protestant domination most close to Catholicism, the Episcopals are left-wing too. Why is this?

Wow, and the United Church of Christ and the United Methodist Church aren't close to Catholicism, but are both ardently left-wing. And the Unitarians are very far from Catholicism, but are ardently left-wing. Why is this? Bury your head in the sand if you want.

[anncoulteriscool]

Hi RnMomof7....Thanks for the article...I know John MacArthur has said he's not a real big fan of Christianily Today for the reason mentioned in this article and the need repentance if de-emphasized. I am presently reading John MacArthur new book called "Hard to Believe" kinda about alot of these issues.

[bluebunny]

If you want to fault the Catholics in Massachusetts -- and feel free to do so -- fault them for voting and thinking like the Globe tells them to, not like the Church tells them to

But that's the whole point. The Boston Globe and others have more influence on them than their church. You still haven't answered that question. Is their something about Catholicism that produces people who not follow the belief system of their own religion? That's what I'm trying to find out.

[Wrigley]

Why am I not surprised by your response?

[RnMomof7]

What's the background on the critter that wrote that?

He is a "Big Wheel " in Wesleyan circles. I know him from the Wesleyan site..

http://www.cresourcei.org/toc.html

[Between the Lines]

In places dominated with Catholics, there is alot of liberalism and many of their scholars and theologians are always questioning Scripture. Why is this?

Texas is in the top 5 most Catholic states. Is there a lot of liberalism in Texas where you are?

The Bible isn't threatened by questions. We ought to keep questioning the Bible, but we ought to listen to the answers we find there as well.

"Those who would succeed in academia, will ask the best questions. And those who would succeed in getting to know God, will ask good questions of His Word."--- Author unknown

[Corin Stormhands]

He is a "Big Wheel " in Wesleyan circles.

Well, some Wesleyan circles. I am not familiar with him. But then I'm also not that familiar with the Nazarenes. I spent more time with UM, Free Methodist, C&MA, Salvation Army, etc. I went to a very Wesleyan school and we thought the Nazarenes were too strict.

So, like I said, not all Wesleyans are exactly alike.

Guess where I found this...

This brief study has demonstrated that openness theology is not a legitimate or necessary extension of historic Arminianism with which the Pentecostal tradition has many affinities. Neither is it reflective of the Calvinistic tradition nor a necessary response to that tradition.
The "Openness of God" From a Pentecostal Perspective

As an aside, this is also interesting given that Boyd is no longer at Bethel. You may already be familiar with this. here

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[Corin Stormhands]

Why am I not surprised by your response?

Oh give it a rest Wrigley. Ain't nobody here gonna believe you have foreknowledge.

Let it go son. Let it go.

[drstevej]

***Why am I not surprised by your response?***

Speaking of surprises. Were you surprised that ksen asked to join the GRPL?

[Wrigley]

What the heck are you talking about? How does this get to me having foreknowledge?

Lay off the happy pills corin. They affect your mind in weird ways.

[Corin Stormhands]

Let it go son. Let it go.

[Wrigley]

Morning.

Coffee and happy pills for you?

[siunevada]

What makes Massachusetts "Catholic"?

I thought their history was mostly Puritans and WASPs. I would think they are mostly secularists these days.

Doesn't every group of Christians have more than enough examples of hypocrites to go around?

[Vernon]

I would appreciate being left out of your comments. Thanks for your understanding.

I meant exactly what I said - period.