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My Muslim President Obama: Why members of the Islamic faith see him as one of the flock.
Forbes ^ | February 25, 2009 | Asma Gull Hasan

Posted on 08/21/2010 11:30:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I know President Obama is not Muslim, but I am tempted nevertheless to think that he is, as are most Muslims I know. In a very unscientific oral poll, ranging from family members to Muslim acquaintances, many of us feel, just as African-Americans did for the non-black but culturally leaning African-American President Bill Clinton, that we have our first American Muslim president in Barack Hussein Obama.

I know it's odd to say this. At first, I thought I was the only Muslim engaging in this folly, and I am reluctant to express it lest right-wing zealots try to use "Muslim" as a smear and cite my theory as proof of an Islamic traitor in the White House or some such nonsense. But, since Election Day, I have been part of more and more conversations with Muslims in which it was either offhandedly agreed that Obama is Muslim or enthusiastically blurted out. In commenting on our new president, "I have to support my fellow Muslim brother," would slip out of my mouth before I had a chance to think twice.

"Well, I know he's not really Muslim," I would quickly add. But if the person I was talking to was Muslim, they would say, "yes he is." They would cite his open nature and habit of reaching out to critics, reminiscent of the Prophet Muhammad's own approach, and also Obama's middle name, Hussein. Most of the Muslims I know (me included) can't seem to accept that Obama is not Muslim.

Of the few Muslims I polled who said that Obama is not Muslim, even they conceded that he had ties to Islam. These realists said that, although not an avowed and practicing Muslim, Obama's exposure to Islam at a young age (both through his father and his stint in Indonesia)

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1 posted on 08/21/2010 11:30:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, for a man who canceled National Prayer Day, this picture should come as quite an embarrassment:

http://willswordsofwisdom.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/obama-at-islam-prayer1.jpg


2 posted on 08/21/2010 11:32:45 PM PDT by ImperialistDaddy (The doctor has left the House!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama has won the “Best practitioner Award of Al Taqiyaa of the Year”

The Muslims are terribly proud of him of course, he has masterfully lied his way into being POTUS.


3 posted on 08/21/2010 11:33:55 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s a cultural Muslim, the way someone like me is a cultural Catholic—I left the church but still have the connection in many ways.

His 20 years in Rev. Wright’s church (where he’d have us believe he slept through every sermon, I guess) show his real religion is the Marxist/Black Liberation creed. Marxism has been combined with all kinds of ideas—including Islamic ones—into this kind of loose idea of “black freedom.”

Obama attended Wright’s church because of the need to be part of the culture, so he’d be seen as “one of us” by his constituents when he was a community organizer.

Were he a Muslim he wouldn’t have said the “clinging to guns and religion” line. He believes in some of what Islam says, some of what Christianity says, but don’t tell me you’re a Christian but take 18 months to NOT find a church where you can worship.

He’s an atheist (says this atheist) who has a strong emotional and cultural connection/bias toward black Muslims. His true feelings are obvious—watch how he talks about Islam, and then how he talks about Christianity, if you can find him doing so. He invited gays to the White House Easter event, but not to the Muslim one—pretty obvious who he wants to kiss up to and who he wants to tick off.

Muslims see him as one of the flock because in the political part of the Islamic world—the one we have to worry about most—he basically IS a Muslim, for all intents and purposes. He’s got their back, he FEELS connected to them, even if he doesn’t believe in their religion. It’s an important distinction, and in the end it means he’s on their side.


4 posted on 08/21/2010 11:37:52 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She wrote a very good article, it was extremely informative, and seemed clear eyed and honest.


5 posted on 08/21/2010 11:40:46 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Quite a coup on Obama’s part: He’s got the Blacks, the Muslims, the liberals, the pro-aborts, the environmentalists, the illegal aliens, the goat cheese and kale eaters all thinking he is one of them.


6 posted on 08/21/2010 11:41:51 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He may have deep Moslem sympathies, especially for the Mullahs in Iran. But his real religious roots are with the Reverend Wright. It was from him that Obama got the title for his autobiography, written after no accomplishments. It was also from him that he absorbed and became a devout anti-American Democrat. It’s this “religious” background that motivates his indifference to his country’s national interests and its people. As a typical elitist, Obama’s only real concern is for himself. He will do what it takes to get elected, but cannot connect with the majority of Americans because they’re alien to him. But the mad mullahs in Iran, wacky Imams in the US, the Ayers, and black racist separatists share Obama’s prejudices and his disdain for the US. Obama wants to be to the US what Gorbachev was to the Soviet Union. He wants to be the president that humbled the US. That’s why he’s comfortable with Chavez and Castro too. He shares their hopes.


7 posted on 08/21/2010 11:44:34 PM PDT by elhombrelibre ("I'd rather be ruled by the Tea Party than the Democratic Party." Norman Podhoretz)
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To: ImperialistDaddy

WOW, what a picture!


8 posted on 08/21/2010 11:46:19 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: All

He’s a Muzzie.

Go to The Obama File http://www.theobamafile.com/index.htm
by Beckwith.

Read the ‘Religion’ section:
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaReligion.htm

and ‘Islam’:
http://www.theobamafile.com/_Islam/ObamaIslamIndex.htm

The United States Library of Congress has selected
TheObamaFile.com for inclusion in its historic collection
of Internet materials.
http://www.theobamafile.com/LibraryOfCongress.html

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9 posted on 08/21/2010 11:47:58 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

” ... They would cite his open nature and habit of reaching out to critics, reminiscent of the Prophet Muhammad’s own approach ... “

It’s all in the eye of the beholder!


10 posted on 08/21/2010 11:48:38 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: ImperialistDaddy

!!!!!! where & when?


11 posted on 08/21/2010 11:48:45 PM PDT by Bhoy
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To: patriot08

I spent many days reading all that they have posted there, I cannot recommend it enough to people that want to know who this person is, they may not have every single fact but they sure come close.

I have used their website for posting many times the last couple of years.


12 posted on 08/21/2010 11:51:23 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: Slyfox

Yeah, he is quite a con-artist to have them all thinking he is their man. Funny thing is, he has China telling him how economies work and should be run and he has Mikey Moore telling him to get with the program. Is there nothing Obama stands for alone? He won’t stand up to terrorists. He won’t stand up to town hall meetings. He won’t stand up to conservative media. He won’t stand up to his wife when she doesn’t let him smoke a simple cigarette. I am convinced the coward was born on his knees, and of course he doesn’t seem to be doing any praying while he has down there. So, down there he stays. Lol!


13 posted on 08/21/2010 11:56:29 PM PDT by ImperialistDaddy (The doctor has left the House!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"One realist Muslim ventured that Obama worships at a Unitarian Church because it represents the middle ground between Christianity and Islam, incorporating the religious beliefs of the two faiths Obama feels connected to."

So, then, he is not a Christian since Uniatrists deny the divinity of Christ and the Triniatrian God.

14 posted on 08/21/2010 11:58:18 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: Slyfox
Quite a coup on Obama’s part: He’s got the Blacks, the Muslims, the liberals, the pro-aborts, the environmentalists, the illegal aliens, the goat cheese and kale eaters all thinking he is one of them

Yup, that's his umma.

15 posted on 08/22/2010 12:02:13 AM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: ImperialistDaddy

I had a thought, Obama is like a piece of welding rod, he is a consumable used to weld two pieces together, like Islam and Marxism.

And that is what we call it in the trade, and welding requires a flux or shield gas, Obama has Al Taqiyaa Islamic teachings which is the flux, to lie, to manipulate, to deceive in order to mix different cultures or rather trying to bond them permanently.

However welds are usually brittle and will break at the joint, especially if dissimilar metals are being used like cast iron and steel.

Islam is an unacceptable metal to be welded to our steel, the weld will not hold, it will fail, and will damage both pieces. Obama is not qualified to be POTUS, that we should not forget. He cannot be removed simply by being a Muslim, but he can for other reasons.


16 posted on 08/22/2010 12:06:06 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think Barry is thinking twenty years down the road when there are enough Muslims in the US to elect a president. I don't think he ever wanted more than a single term in order to get the sort of base he'll have when he's out of office to build foundations and other infrastructure to help build “understanding” in preparation for the election of a Muslim president. Anything he can do to put the economy under the control of the executive branch is a step in the right direction as far as Islamic governance is concerned, hence all of his ‘socialist’ pretensions are just a good front for his real goals.

Regards

17 posted on 08/22/2010 12:07:36 AM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is already insane and sequestered on golf courses or vacations so you won't know it)
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To: ImperialistDaddy
When I went back to college, I had to read Aristotle and Aquinas. I learned all about virtue and vice. Especially this fine tidbit:

Virtue is the mean (middle) and on one side of virtue is the vice. The other side of the virtue is another vice which "appears" to be a virtue.

For example, the virtue of courage has as its vice cowardice. But, the "apparent" virtue (masking itself as a virtue) is a version of boldness, which is intended to make it "appear" that the person is displaying courage when he really isn't. Sort of like the cowardly lion in the Wizard of Oz growling loudly when he was anything but courageous.

Obama has got this "apparent" virtue thing down pat. That is why he has so many people fooled into thinking he is a great, great man.

18 posted on 08/22/2010 12:22:09 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Muzzbama.


19 posted on 08/22/2010 12:29:00 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh boy! You are who you hang out with! His name is Muslim how is that for starters? His father was a Muslim. He went to a Muslim school!


20 posted on 08/22/2010 12:31:46 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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