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“War and Peace in Our Time: Mormon Perspectives” [Lds Pacifists alive and well]
The Mormon Worker ^ | Feb. 27, 2011

Posted on 05/30/2011 12:30:45 PM PDT by Colofornian

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To: KevinDavis
Meanwhile almost 10 years ago a bunch of Muslims (who pose a greater threat than Mormons) did this:

And since then; this country has ALLOWED the murder of 10,000,000 Americans at the hands of "CHOICE".

21 posted on 05/30/2011 6:02:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian
Maybe you Mormon FREEPERS should have a holy huddle to get all on the same page here.

Ha ha!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sects_in_the_Latter_Day_Saint_movement

22 posted on 05/30/2011 6:04:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: KevinDavis
I think you are acting like more like a Muslim than a Christian..

MUSLIMs: the new NAZIs...

23 posted on 05/30/2011 6:06:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: KevinDavis; Colofornian

Nope.

Collectively, Mormons evangelize their doctrine in direct opposition to all of Christendom.

In fact, all of Christendom worship in a dark faith, a fallen faith, an apostasy.

They know well the high points of Catholic, Protestant and Lutheran doctrine and have their sales pitch at the ready to undermine ones choice in doctrine.

If you are a Christian you are not part of the one true religion.

If you are Mormon you are Christian but you are not a Christian. One objectifies a narrative presumed state, the other simply is.

Now they want to proclaim themselves christian, not Christians too or Christians of a different faith but still part of the larger body of Christ.

They are separate and unique while you are “An apostate and whore of Babylon”. Don’t blame me but rather Joseph Smith who uttered those words. There is a statue of Joseph Smith and a plaque under it with those words.

Further, every single Prophet has nothing good to say about Christianity and they would never be a Christian.

Odd they now claim to be christian but still not a Christian too or a Christian like you.


24 posted on 05/30/2011 10:04:04 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: KevinDavis; Religion Moderator

Never mind that groups like Jehovah’s Witness and some other religious groups refuses to fight for this country.

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The scriptures talk about folks who are so eager to believe the worst in others and everything they hear because they in their hearts don’t like those people.

You all are entile to your opinions but this is the facts!

Military and the Church
http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/basic/doctrines/military/military_church_eom.htm

LDS military district in Afghanistan brings blessings of service
http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/57351/LDS-military-district-in-Afghanistan-brings-blessings-of-service.html

Military Relations
http://lds.org/pa/display/1,17884,4649-1,00.html

LDS Military Videos LDSRelations’s Channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/LDSRelations

LDS apostles in the military
http://www.google.com/search?q=LDS+apostles+in+the+military&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7

BTW the anti- Mormons will go to any link to Trash the LDS even to a small outcast group who are Socialist and nothing more than liars and distorters of truth.

Michael Quinn was excommunicate and is a flaming liberal and SS.

The title “The Mormon worker” should have been a clue


25 posted on 05/31/2011 8:55:15 AM PDT by restornu (Love One Another... God Bless America!)
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To: restornu
What about J. Reuben Clark, First President of the Lds Church from 1933-1961? A pacifist. Was Clark a "liar and distorter of the truth" too?

What about the supposed many conscientious LDS objectors in WWI? Was Mormon writer George Givens telling the truth about them?

26 posted on 05/31/2011 10:05:33 AM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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To: Colofornian
“You Gentiles are intolerant for not accepting us Mormons as fellow Christians.”

To a Mormon - we are “Gentiles”.

To us - they want to be “Christians”.

Double standard?

27 posted on 05/31/2011 10:13:36 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Colofornian

What I find interesting is ilk like you can post from a real Socialist web site on FR for your personal vendetta and the thread still exist.

Amazing

Colofornian there is much too be desired in your character and the scriptures list them all….

There is no differents between The Worker http://www.workersparty.org/ and The Mormon Worker rag! http://themormonworker.wordpress.com/2011/02/27/war-and-peace-in-our-time-mormon-perspectives/


28 posted on 05/31/2011 11:14:29 AM PDT by restornu (Love One Another... God Bless America!)
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To: allmendream

You Gentiles are intolerant for not accepting us Mormons as fellow Christians.”
To a Mormon - we are “Gentiles”.

To us - they want to be “Christians”.

Double standard?

27 posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:13:36 PM by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)

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No double standard just different points of view!

One can be considered a Gentile and still be Jewish,

The Jewish think those not of their faith are Gentiles.

The mainstream can according to their understanding think LDS are Gentiles, as well as the LDS can think the mainsteam is Gentiles


29 posted on 05/31/2011 11:37:03 AM PDT by restornu (Love One Another... God Bless America!)
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To: restornu

Yes, a different point of view.

In the Mormon view we Christians are the “other” - a “Gentile”.

But how DARE we not call them fellow Christians - while they call us “Gentiles”.

Yes, it IS a Double Standard.

They hold themselves apart via word usage - while insisting we not do the same, via word usage.


30 posted on 05/31/2011 11:40:54 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

You still don’t get it...

Yet you anti call us worst.

The LDS never denies you were not
Chirstians

BTW The term Chirstian is anyone who beleives in Jesus Christ.

What silly nitpicking


31 posted on 05/31/2011 11:55:56 AM PDT by restornu (Love One Another... God Bless America!)
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To: restornu

I am not an “anti” - whatever mental shorthand that means to you.

I do not call you “worst” or even worse things than a “Gentile”.

Muslims also believe in Jesus Christ, though not exactly in the same way Christians do - but then again neither do Mormons.

Christians don’t believe that God was once a man - OTHER THAN - when Jesus the Christ was born.

Are Muslims “Christians” according to you?

Would calling them “Muslims” instead of “Christians” be “silly nitpicking” - or would it clarify a GLARING difference?


32 posted on 05/31/2011 11:59:38 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

Those who behave like anti are fellow of nothing because theye choose to ignore Jesus council and if one choses to ignore they have no meeting of the minds nor contract aka covenant.

John 15:12

12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

I don’t recall Jesus saying love only some...


33 posted on 05/31/2011 12:12:04 PM PDT by restornu (Love One Another... God Bless America!)
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To: restornu
I don't recall him saying anything about going to America and starting a NEW religion because all his Churches were going to be “abominations” - other than the one that said “the sword or Joseph Smith!”.

How is “the sword of Joseph Smith!” compatible with love for your fellow man?

Sounds more like Islam to me. Muslims believe in Jesus Christ also, is it unfair that we not call them Christians - or would calling them that be inaccurate?

34 posted on 05/31/2011 12:15:45 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: restornu; allmendream; All
One can be considered a Gentile and still be Jewish...

Typical Mormon topsy-turvy upside-down redefine-all-terms-for-their-own-meaning drivel.

To Mormons, "eternal" doesn't = forever as in forever...Joseph Smith said early in his Doctrine & Covenants that since God = eternal, well, "eternal" is another word for "of God"...but that eternal and everlasting doesn't mean eternal and everlasting.

To a Mormon - we are “Gentiles”. To us - they want to be “Christians”. Double standard? [allmendream, #27]

You nailed it, allmendream!

Mormon double-standardness to the hilt! (What's new in Mormonism?)

35 posted on 05/31/2011 12:16:22 PM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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To: allmendream

Muslim do not believe Jesus was the Son of God who did the will of God the Father by atoning for our sins and was also crucified for our sin and conquer death so we could return home someday.


36 posted on 05/31/2011 12:19:20 PM PDT by restornu (Love One Another... God Bless America!)
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To: Colofornian

You are still all confused and as I watch through the years how far you have drifted and are clueless to what LDS believe.


37 posted on 05/31/2011 12:21:35 PM PDT by restornu (Love One Another... God Bless America!)
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To: restornu
Christians do not believe Jesus was the son of a God who was once a man himself. Christians do not believe that someday they themselves will be Gods. Christians do not believe that Jesus had a brother named Satan.

Return home.... to Kolob?

;)

38 posted on 05/31/2011 12:25:05 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: restornu

So how is “the sword or Joseph Smith!” compatible with love for your fellow man?


39 posted on 05/31/2011 12:26:38 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: restornu; allmendream
What I find interesting is ilk like you...

What I find of interest, Resty, is we've communicated on FR for how many years now? Yet you're still referencing me in impersonal unloving ways like "ilk like you?"...

And yet less than an hour after posting the above, you told allmendream in post #33:

John 15:12 12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. I don’t recall Jesus saying love only some...

So I'm not part of your sermon to allmendream? I'm an exception?

What I find interesting is ilk like you can post from a real Socialist web site on FR for your personal vendetta and the thread still exist.

What I find interesting is that Mormon socialists still are so forward in presenting themselves. Wanna show me a few links where mainstream Mormons are openly critiquing these Mormon socialists online? (If they are so anti-representative of Mormons)

Anticipating no such links...here will be my next posts:

I'm waiting.

I'm waiting, Resty.

Still waiting, Resty.

C'mon, Resty...won't settle for crickets on this one.

I posted this thread to expose these Mormon socialists. So that they can be openly critiqued. Why aren't Mormon watchdogs on the prowl highlighting for fellow Mormons to watch out for them?

If you can't produce these Mormon watchdogs I'm asking you for, then may I suggest you shut your keyboard on this particular subject? IOW, if Mormons can't find their keyboards to openly initiate an open critique of Mormon socialist groups, then how can you dare critique me? At least I'm not silent in my open disdain of Mormon socialist-pacifists. (I'm not sure you can say the same thing about Mormon Web sites)

40 posted on 05/31/2011 12:29:36 PM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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