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Choking and Pleading for Water as He Dies... This Has Been a Happy Event
The Sun (UK) ^ | Lucy Connolly

Posted on 06/12/2011 6:18:09 AM PDT by marshmallow

Fury at suicide on BBC

A DESPERATELY ill man will be shown on TV choking and begging for water before he dies in a suicide clinic.

The harrowing scenes to be screened by BBC2 on Monday are set to spark outrage.

Millionaire hotelier Peter Smedley, 71, was filmed swallowing a lethal dose of the barbiturate Nembutal - helped down with a praline chocolate.

He gasps for breath. Within a minute his face turns red and he chokes as he pleads for water.

The documentary Choosing To Die shows an "escort" at the Dignitas clinic in Switzerland holding on to Peter as he convulses on a sofa.

His wife of 40 years, Christine, 60, holds his shaking hand.

The staff member tells the camera: "He is losing consciousness, very soon the breathing will stop and then the heart."

After motor neurone disease sufferer Peter dies the Dignitas worker tells Christine she can cry and "let it all out".

Author Sir Terry Pratchett, who made the programme, says to a background of haunting pipe music: "This has been a happy event.

"He died peacefully, more or less in the arms of his wife, quietly."

Sir Terry, an Alzheimer's sufferer and supporter of euthanasia, tells clinic staff he was "impressed".

The camera cuts to snow falling outside the corrugated iron Dignitas house on an industrial estate.

But campaigners Care Not Killing attacked the BBC for its "one-sided" programme.

(Excerpt) Read more at thesun.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: assistedsuicide; bbc; choosingtodie; cultureofdeath; dignitas; documentary; euthanasia; moralabsolutes; murder; switzerland; terrypratchett; uk
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
The approach is not relevant. I was commenting on the broadcasting of this event.

Well you do bring up another point. Suicide really is the ultimate form of vanity and selfishness. This person wanted it broadcast because he wanted to show everyone just how this is supposed to be done. In a very ironic sense, he got exactly that for which he asked.

I was commenting that the purpose of this event is to brainwash society into accepting that it is “humane” and for the “public good” to kill yourself (or to kill a family member) when the state deems you are no longer an asset but a liability, or when the new Moralists deem your life is not worth living.

I cannot find enough ways to "amen" what you said. And this is how it always starts... someone, as a sick person, has a "right" to die with "dignity" by their own hand. Then it it becomes an "assisted" "suicide" with the help of someone else. Soon it morphs into a "duty to die" because such people are "burdens" on society. Then of course it becomes wanton murder of "undesirables."

21 posted on 06/12/2011 6:53:12 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: marshmallow

Christ should make all calls on life and death. If we beat Him to the punch, they’ll be hell to pay. Sad, ugly story, but typical of the selfish.


22 posted on 06/12/2011 6:54:02 AM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: AU72

My guess is, he’s not saying that now. If he think’s living on earth is bad, just die without Christ. It’ll make anything going on here, look like a walk in the park.


23 posted on 06/12/2011 6:54:27 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: AU72

He is rethinking that now.


24 posted on 06/12/2011 6:55:37 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: MsLady
There is answers to everything in the bible. It always amazes me.

I hope to some day get to the phase where it "amazes" me too... right now when I find the answers during my readings, I have more of a jaw-dropping holy-*#@$%*&@ type of a reaction to it.

I am sure God gets that a lot though. :)

25 posted on 06/12/2011 6:55:45 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Few words - Much truth.


26 posted on 06/12/2011 6:56:06 AM PDT by labette ( Humble student of Thinkology)
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To: The Antiyuppie

“BASICALLY, DO NOT DO THIS.”
_______________________________

Look, I have no intention of doing this, but I did have a family friend that did it back in the 60s.
I mentioned it as one cheap and common way that people did/do it.

Anyway, there are any number of ways to kill one’s self
very quickly and easily, without paying big bucks to a clinic.
Give the money to a charity, then go jump off a bridge.


27 posted on 06/12/2011 6:58:20 AM PDT by AlexW (Proud eligibility skeptic)
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To: pnh102

even a dog gets two shots when euthanized, to make the passing peaceful


28 posted on 06/12/2011 6:58:57 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Show these types of things often enough and with enough flare and pretty soon the masses will think nothing of it. This is what happens to people who live without knowing God. Without love, without hope, and it's right there in front of them, but, they choose death instead. How utterly sad, sick and pitiful.

Worth repeating: Proverbs 8:36 But whoever fails to find me harms himself; all who hate me love death."

29 posted on 06/12/2011 7:00:51 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: marshmallow

it won’t be long before it becomes common here. It is already here.


30 posted on 06/12/2011 7:02:03 AM PDT by sport
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To: AlexW

“but it is quite cheap.”

Not at today’s gas prices. /s


31 posted on 06/12/2011 7:11:30 AM PDT by thatjoeguy (Wind is just air, but pushier.)
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To: AlexW

“How about just closing the garage and let the motor run.
Many die that way, usually unintentionally, but it is quite cheap.”

What do you do if you have a Prius? The battery will die before the owner does.


32 posted on 06/12/2011 7:17:05 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: MsLady
There is answers to everything in the bible.

Except grammar.


33 posted on 06/12/2011 7:22:31 AM PDT by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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To: pnh102

I get the same jaw-dropping eye popping too. I have read the bible for years, decades really, and completely from cover to cover about a dozen times. I still find things all the time that I didn’t know was there before or didn’t remember. Or I’ll read a verse and suddenly I’ll get it, like a light bulb going on. I’m sure God does get that a lot and I’m sure He gets a big chuckle of great joy out of it.


34 posted on 06/12/2011 7:24:01 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: MsLady

“Without Hope”

And to emphasize your reference, it is another disturbing trend of modern society that so many Americans put their “Hope” not only in a human being, but in a human being that had a track record of despising this country and its people and who had no evidence of being able to accomplish anything that was not handed to him...that so many put their “hope” in mankind rather putting their “faith” in God.

It is further evidence of how our state-run education system has so dumbed-down the populace that the secular humanists (who are anti-God and anti-religion) were able to demonize the term “faith” and then adopt one that is its very cousin (hope) and make that marketable, while it was essentially trying to sell the same thing, albeit not as directed to The Lord but to someone who is little more than a feudal lord.


35 posted on 06/12/2011 7:28:48 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: marshmallow

They made a huge mistake by allowing it to be videoed and shown on television.

The US Army long ago learned that there was *no* way for any photographs of dead people, friendly or enemy, to be aired without it having a negative effect on how people viewed the army.

So much so that the Quartermaster Corps, which is in charge of body recovery, has become masterful at clearing dead bodies from the sites of major battles before the press can take pictures. That is also why there was a strict prohibition on depicting flag draped coffins returning from the war in Iraq.

Remember the traumatic scene in the movie Saving Private Ryan, where a German soldier has pushed a knife into the chest of an American soldier, and is “shushing” him as he struggles to live while being killed?

This is what many in the public will see as this television show about euthanasia is aired.

While the pro-death types see it as beautiful and wonderful and peaceful, those thoughts exist only in their murderous minds. The typical normal person will be horrified.


36 posted on 06/12/2011 7:46:52 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Kimmers

***I remember movies showing a society that watching people dying as a form of entertainment.***

remember the videos FACES OF DEATH from years ago?


37 posted on 06/12/2011 7:47:30 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

“But I can’t help but wonder if this is the absolute most death-glorifying culture and immoral of all the ages.”

Not even close.

Lots of societies in history much worse than ours.

Why do so many people on FR like to pile on when it comes to cultural issues? As if making it sound worse than it really is will make it bette?


38 posted on 06/12/2011 7:48:47 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: marshmallow
I don't share Terry Pratchett's opinion - and I don't think most viewers of this will either. If this is "one-sided" programming (and without seeing it I don't know) it might turn out to be a spectacular "own goal" for the euthenasia lobby, much like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu3gd2FulwY

was for the global warming eco warrior gang.

39 posted on 06/12/2011 7:49:33 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: mlizzy

Couldn’t have said it better. He’ll regret that for eternity, I suspect. Suicide is awful, through and through.


40 posted on 06/12/2011 7:51:24 AM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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