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Jehovah’s Witnesses Blood Transfusion Confusion
Madison Country Courier ^ | 16 September 2011 | Margo

Posted on 09/16/2011 7:22:53 AM PDT by Cronos

Building on Jim Coufal’s “The Role of Fear and Guilt in Religion,” it is a simple fact that the Bible does not prohibit blood transfusions. If you are bleeding to death, it is more dangerous to refuse a blood transfusion than to take one.

Bloodless surgeries are great if they can be elective. One-third of all trauma deaths are from blood loss.

Jehovah’s Witnesses elders will investigate and disfellowship any Jehovah Witness who takes a blood transfusion; to say the issue is a ‘personal conscience matter’ is subterfuge to keep the Watchtower out of lawsuits.

..Estimates of the number of men, women and children who have died since the Jehovah Witness blood ban inception in 1945 range between 150,000 and 250,000.


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Now I hear that the JW's allow blood "components" -- what does that mean? They will take some of the blood but not donate any?
1 posted on 09/16/2011 7:22:55 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos
Sorry, JW is a cult. "Religions" that try to restrict contact with the outside world, while twisting biblical quotes for justification?

That bunch of homicidal cranks came close to killing my stepdaughter, with her crazy-azzed mother-in-law telling the doctor no emergency blood during a bad baby delivery, (Small woman, large baby), before we got there. If the doctor hadn't come back out to argue again...

2 posted on 09/16/2011 7:39:12 AM PDT by jonascord (Politicians should be pelted with human manure, weekly, to remind them of their worth to society.)
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To: Cronos
Sorry, JW is a cult. "Religions" that try to restrict contact with the outside world, while twisting biblical quotes for justification?

That bunch of homicidal cranks came close to killing my stepdaughter, with her crazy-azzed mother-in-law telling the doctor no emergency blood during a bad baby delivery, (Small woman, large baby), before we got there. If the doctor hadn't come back out to argue again...

3 posted on 09/16/2011 7:39:38 AM PDT by jonascord (Politicians should be pelted with human manure, weekly, to remind them of their worth to society.)
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To: Cronos
It may be plasma? I'm not sure. But I am sure that the JW a total cult. When I became a JW it was because I was searching and thirsting and JW were all too willing to fill the void. Not knowing the bible, their indoctrination was fairly easy with me. They have rewritten their bible to suit their beliefs, of course. You are not allowed to read any religious material except theirs. You are to tell your family good bye if they don't except your beliefs, you do not stand up for the pledge of allegiance or to sing God Bless America and demon fear play a big part in their lives. Thank God I am now saved and have put the cult behind me but I still cringe whenever someone mentions JW conversion. Oh, and you are to report on one another (including your spouse) if someone is doing wrong according to their beliefs. Worst years of my life.
4 posted on 09/16/2011 7:39:38 AM PDT by Bitsy (!)
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To: jonascord

Years ago, would drive by the Watchtower printing plant in Brooklyn. Every afternoon, all employees would go outside for a required 15 min of “Sun.”

No one spoke, no one moved, no one smiled. It was like watching 300 zombies or a scene from “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” with all their faces turned to the Sun.


5 posted on 09/16/2011 8:00:03 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX. Remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: Cronos

It means they’re allowed to take all the components of blood separately but not the entire thing itself. They’re underhanded hypocrites to no end. I still have some JW related issues I’m still working out with my shrink, and it’s been 10 years since I left that cult.


6 posted on 09/16/2011 8:44:58 AM PDT by NorthStarStateConservative (Springtime in America will arrive on January 21, 2013.)
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My elderly neighbor, one of Jehovah's Witnesses, without transfusion, had both hips replaced last year and has fared quite well.

Whoever this “Margo” is, in this letter to the editor, he/she seems singularly ignorant of the subject.

7 posted on 09/16/2011 9:29:18 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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I used to work with 2 women who were JW. They would rather die than have a blood transfusion. I had a transfusion a couple of years ago after almost bleeding to death. They were horrified when they found out I had a transfusion.


8 posted on 09/16/2011 2:40:15 PM PDT by toothfairy86
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To: toothfairy86

it’s sad, they are wrong to thing this is consuming blood.


9 posted on 09/16/2011 11:06:43 PM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: count-your-change

Perhaps that was one case, however, you must admit that blood transfusions are necessary in many cases — especially if you have lost or could lose blood?


10 posted on 09/16/2011 11:08:14 PM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: count-your-change; NorthStarStateConservative
Also, as NorthStar points out, the Jehovah'sWitness philosophy on this is wrong and they cause a lot of issues.

CYC -- how can anyone justify the JehowahWitness philosophy that blood transfusions is wrong? That is biblically unsound.

11 posted on 09/16/2011 11:09:51 PM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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It means they’re allowed to take all the components of blood separately but not the entire thing itself. They’re underhanded hypocrites to no end.

Thank you for that explanation. Yes it is hypocritical.

I wish you well on your journey away from this group.

12 posted on 09/16/2011 11:10:59 PM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Bitsy; count-your-change
But I am sure that the JW a total cult. When I became a JW it was because I was searching and thirsting and JW were all too willing to fill the void. Not knowing the bible, their indoctrination was fairly easy with me

Thank you for that, I did not know that you are to report on one another (including your spouse) if someone is doing wrong according to their beliefs -- that's what the STASI did.

13 posted on 09/16/2011 11:12:21 PM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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In the late 80’s when reports began coming out of Canada of an infection that seemed to go along with Hepatitis C among a number of transfusion recipients I began to do a bit of research on the subject for myself.

Concerns about the safety of the blood supply caused a movement among surgeons to either eliminate of minimize blood use, not out of religious objections but concern for an infection by an agent they couldn't test for except by it's association with Hepatitis C.

Although even heart surgeries had been performed without transfusions since the early 60’s concern over the safety of the blood supply propelled the movement toward bloodless surgery for strictly medical reasons apart from patients religious views. Today bloodless, no blood transfusion, surgery is common, far more so than even 20 odd years ago.

As to the necessity of blood use or not, I'm not a physician but obviously the number of cases where transfusion is considered necessary has diminished by miles just as the percentage of premature babies treated and surviving has grown due to medical advances.

As with abortion due to medical necessity transfusion of blood for medical necessity is a term proving obsolete.

14 posted on 09/17/2011 1:50:45 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Cronos

I suggest you try one of the official sites first. I’ve found that to be a good practice. Then get back to me.


15 posted on 09/17/2011 2:02:18 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Let’s see your documentation. You can cite anonymous sources all you want, but until you provide any documented sources, please don’t push your lapsed religion here. There are a few of us on this forum who can spot a lapsed but fully believing JW from a mile away.


16 posted on 09/17/2011 9:18:56 AM PDT by NorthStarStateConservative (Springtime in America will arrive on January 21, 2013.)
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To: NorthStarStateConservative

Since my comments weren’t directed to you or in response to any posting by you I feel no need to provide you with anything.

If you can return in a more civil tone I’ll consider it. Thanks.


17 posted on 09/17/2011 9:38:01 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Typical JW victimhoodism and avoidant behavior.


18 posted on 09/17/2011 12:42:52 PM PDT by NorthStarStateConservative (Springtime in America will arrive on January 21, 2013.)
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To: count-your-change; Bitsy; NorthStarStateConservative
oh, I've seen them. The Jehovah's witnesses do seem incredibly cultic. After all, they have purposely in the 1800s and 1900s distorted the bible for their own nefarious purpose.

Come on, cyc, how can you believe this crazy Jehovah's Witness distorted philosophy?

19 posted on 09/17/2011 11:50:14 PM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: count-your-change; Bitsy; NorthStarStateConservative; MarkBsnr; Natural Law; WPaCon; Mad Dawg; ...
cyc: As with abortion due to medical necessity transfusion of blood for medical necessity is a term proving obsolete.

Comparing blood transfusions to abortion is a false linkage. That's a false Jehovah's Witness linkage.

blood transfusion is needed at times -- do you seriously wish to argue that it is not? What kind of WatchTower issue tries to argue this?

20 posted on 09/17/2011 11:55:15 PM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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