Posted on 12/22/2013 7:46:05 AM PST by cutofyourjib
Despite a recent strongly worded clarification from Rome, confusion is continuing to be stirred up over the Catholic Church’s practice of refusing Communion to those who are divorced and remarried. A prominent curial cardinal, and favorite of Pope Francis, has defied the Vatican’s doctrinal office, saying that he expects a change.
Cardinal Walter Kasper has said bluntly, and in direct opposition to the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), that the rules will shortly be changed to allow divorced and remarried Catholics to be admitted to Holy Communion.
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Actually it’s not. Before you remarried, you were not committing adultery (and I’m assuming you weren’t committing any other mortal sin). Without an annulment that confirms that your first marriage was invalid, you are technically still married to your first husband in the eyes of the Church and in the eyes of God.
Why do you doubt the validity? It was reported on Vatican Radio.
I’m doubting the validity of this report.
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I doubt it as well.
No, it’s the incorrect application of Vatican II that is the cause of many problems.
Why do you doubt the validity? It was reported on Vatican Radio.
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When? By whom? In what context?
Nope. Cardinal Kasper himself admitted that ambiguities were intentional.
Source?
Ambiguities about what?
Well it would not surprise me.
Got to remember we have now a “pastoral Pope” as Pope.
Before we go any further, do you believe that Pope John Paul II was a false pope?
Marriage and annulment, however, are not such issues. They are perfectly resolvable through normal Church processes.
"Those of you who doubt me on this will answer to God yourselves for a Commandment violation: BEARING FALSE WITNESS!"
Step aside, Magisterium! There is new authority in town, one who apparently has a direct line to God. What bearing false witness and upholding Church teachings on marriage have in common, I do not know. I'm waiting on the New Magisterium to throw some light on the issue.
I think he meant platonic
That I can see happening. This was always attached to the explanation of the sinfullness of remarriage: "unless you live as a brother and sister..." It would not even require a change of discipline, merely a clarification of already existing doctrine.
Let us remember that the Church does not fault people who end up in an impossible relationship and get a civil divorce. The Church would not fault them if they form a lasting non-sexual relationship with someone else. It is strictly sex outside of marriage, that is outside of the un-annulled first marriage, that is sinful.
I have no special insights into the Curia, but I see this possibility logically.
Why do you persist posting this ‘Internal Forum’ garbage? I know you have been fraternally corrected by myself on this.
You are wrong.
All you have is OPINIONS from Catholic Authorities who do not approve of using the “internal forum” for remarriage purposes.
You have NO definitive statement from a Pope speaking from the Throne of St. Peter on the subject, and claiming infallibility.
You tell me what you want to be the “law” but you have no grasp of the real issues involved.
You are a “rules and regs” Pharisee of modern times.
The law was made for the people, not the people for the law.
It is YOU and not me who is attempting to state the mind of God and the correct application of the faith.
I am telling you that YES, some abuses are made in the “Internal Forum” -— but so what? Abuses are also made in the formal “External Forum” or annulment process.
Some of you seem absolutely obsessed with these issues.
And YES, I think you violate a commandment when you judge at all.
You are DEFINATELY in violation when you judge without firm knowledge of Church law and firm knowledge of FACTS which will usually be none of your business!!
Here is where the “logic” of the law and order, rules and regs Catholics is screwed up.
If the first marriage was truly INVALID, it is and was INVALID -— REGARLESS OF THE OPINION OF ANY TRIBUNAL!
Here is where the “logic” of the law and order, rules and regs Catholics is screwed up.
If the first marriage was truly INVALID, it is and was INVALID -— REGARLESS OF THE OPINION OF ANY TRIBUNAL!
Try reading the article first. The link is in there. If you can’t read Deutsch, find somebody who can.
The fact that I am backed by thousands of continuous years of Church doctrine, and you are backed by nothing but your own opinion and that of a few modernist clerics...Tells me that it is indeed you who is trying to state the mind of God.
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