Posted on 01/08/2014 9:38:28 AM PST by chuckles
As I was preparing for a study of the Jewish Feasts Days, I happened across Leviticus 18:22-30 and the words grabbed me and held me there. I had read the verses before, but it seems I was just looking at the word "abomination" and thought it was unusual for God to describe that particular sin in a more forceful way, than say, "stealing". As I re read the verses, It caught my eye that God was giving the Jews the land because the people before them had committed sodomy before them. Then God warns the Jews that if they did the same, they would be "vomited out of the land" also.
I was shown there that sexual sin is treated differently than say, idolatry, lying, stealing, ect. Adultery and fornication is said to be a sin against our own flesh. We had just had a Wednesday night service that basically said all sin was the same, so we shouldn't boast that we are "better" than someone because we didn't sin as they did. Our sin must be paid for, just as theirs must be.
About the time Utah was overruled on their ban on gay marriage, they also had monogamy kicked down the road. I think that made them the 18th state to have legal gay marriage. I started to wonder what would God do when we get to 26 states that allow sodomy.
I don't think people realize just how serious this could be. The Jews were put into bondage for over 400 years because they refused to observe the Sabbaths properly.
A few weeks later, the Duck Dynasty kerfuffle happened and we now find out that quoting the Bible is now "hate speech" in America. The Talking Head morons said Phil said sodomites would turn to bestiality, which was a lie and only proves no one reads their Bible anymore, otherwise they would have been corrected on air.
Then the Holy Spirit lead me back to Romans 1, one of my favorite chapters in the Bible. If you look at verse 18 and beyond, we are clearly told that God will dispense His Wrath on those that suppress the Truth in unrighteousness. If that verse doesn't fit no prayer in school, get "God" off the money, those that call a baby a fetus, those that say sodomy is "love", and more. Now they misquote the Bible and call someone that quotes the Bible a "hater". As we get to verse 30 in Romans we see that those that approve of these things are as guilty as those that practice them.
Now if I hear "Judge not, lest ye be judged", one more time, I think I'll scream. We are COMMANDED to judge sin and FLEE from it. I cannot judge a human soul as our judge is in Heaven, but we all should recognize sin at a glance and turn from it. As Paul told the Corinthians in 1 Cor 5:1-7, he didn't even need to come there to know what to do with the sinner in their midst. They were proud that they were able to overlook sin in their own church. What does that tell the others in the church,..how about the children, what do they think sin means if it is just overlooked?
What I see is judgement is coming to America. God cannot allow open rebellion to go unpunished. A good case could be made that when Christians allowed Clinton to commit adultery and then lie under oath, 9-11 was just a couple of years after. We won every battle in Viet Nam, yet we lost the war. Could we connect that to Free love, drugs, and rock and roll back home? Remember the Time Magazine cover, "God is Dead"? What was going on back home was a complete breakdown of morals and we may have paid for it on the battlefield. If you stop to think a minute, a few men with box cutters killed more people in one day than the Japanese did at Pearl Harbor. Did God lift His hedge of protection for a moment to allow us to repent? If I remember correctly, we repented and attended church for at least a couple months before returning to our "dog vomit".
If you read the Old Testament as a history of God's people, you see good leadership= blessed nation, bad leadership= slavery and destruction. Why would it be different today? As we give our lives to Christ, we were "grafted in" or "adopted" into the family of God. I can't see why God's principles would change just because we are Gentiles. God will discipline His children to drive them to repent. The question is "How long before we repent?" I have NO DOUBT that if we do not repent, we will be defeated by evil people armed with sticks and swords even if we have nukes and invisible planes. We couldn't defeat 4 ft tall rice farmers in Viet Nam and we were attacked with a few men with box cutters. Anyone that believes we can win without God is fooling themselves. My father told me as a B-24 turret gunner that we shouldn't have won the war in Germany. They sent out 100 planes and 20 or less might return. He watched as thousands of men were put through a meat grinder daily and he thought we would run out of men and money. I believe we were on God's side in that war and we couldn't lose. Since then, The evidence shows we have turned from God and we believe God is on our side rather that the other way around. For God's blessing and hedge of protection, we must be on God's side and He will insure that His people, called by His name, will be forced to repent, and turn from evil, and He will hear from Heaven and heal our land. We have a choice and it must be made soon. We will choose sodomy and baby murder and be "vomited" out of the land, or we will repent and bring revival back to the people of God and be blessed by our Father. Catholics voted 54% for a man that voted to kill babies born alive and now they are upset that the Nuns must support abortion or be punished. Evangelicals, according the some of the polls after Duck Dynasty, only 50% voted and you have to guess many of those voted for people that vote sodomy and baby murder so they can get more food stamps. Now we have a homosexual marriage at the Rose Bowl Parade and a vision came to my head of a man standing on a high wire with Hell Fire down below and he looks to Heaven with a raised cliched fist, and screams, "There you go God! What are you going to do about it!"
I just felt that the Holy Spirit was showing me something that should be talked about and FR is a place I can post it. I will be giving this message soon in my church, and I'm sure their will be smashed toes in the membership. People have repented before and revival swept the land. It can be done, but what are the odds before Iran sets off a bomb in NYC or DC? Our necks are pretty stiff. It may take a strong blow to the head to get us on our knees. It's up to the church to do this. God doesn't hear the prayers of the lost. The Bible was written to His children, not to what is burnt in the fire. It's up to His church to get the "leaven" out of His House. Trying to reason with the dead is a waste of time.
I've looked the sentence over and over and I'm not an English major so their may be some other sentence structure I should have used.
The point is, when the talking heads were droning on about Phil, they had 15 different polls they discussed. One said 50% of evangelicals that were eligible to vote, didn't vote. Of the 50% that did vote, I have to imagine that many voted "for the working man" as they say. The point of Romans 1:30 is you will be held responsible if you APPROVE of the named sins in verses 29-31. I consider abortion, murder, and homosexuality fits sexual immorality.
We have people in my church and I'm sure you have some in your church that have bumper stickers on their bumpers that reveal they may not have discernment to know sticking scissors in the back of a baby's skull denotes murder.
I have spoken with several pastors and have been told everything from "It's like preaching to the choir", to "I don't want to cause division in the church". Many pastors don't think it's a problem while others don't want to lose a tither. Many school teachers, lawyers, union bosses, and such don't care to hear the truth so the pastors have just started to "preach down" to the easy stuff. Who doesn't want to hear Jesus loves you and come as you are? Some are even Deacons but vote for known abortion supporters. First the pastor needs to confront them with their rebellion to God, and if that doesn't change their mind, they should be removed and or sent home. The Church in Corinth were told to deal with this by throwing him out of the body after he was confronted with his sin and hope that he would repent and come back.
As Christians, we should vote for Godly people. If we don't even bother to vote, I don't understand what they expect to get from that but the world's evil. If there are no Godly candidates, run yourself. As far as the Catholics go, with a majority voting for Obama, there is definitely something wrong in the body if they think Obama wouldn't kill as many babies as possible. Let us also not forget that business has already been forced to service gay couples such as photographers and bakers. How long before some priest is forced to marry two men? All this because no one wants to preach the Word. The new pope has already shown so many wrong headed statements that have top be walked back, I think there is big trouble coming in the church.
Thank you for all of this.
IMO, the attacks on 9-11 and the economic trouble will continue until we come back to God. We could be attacked any day and our money is hanging by a thread. If we turn on Israel and fail to help them, what use are we to God? Our acceptance of abortion and gay marriage is just a symptom of the utter blindness in America. Our arrogance tells us that we are somehow blessed by God when we may have had "Ichabod" pronounced on us decades ago.
America will not stand without the protection of God.
I have always taken this to mean that God’s hand is still stretched out for us to grasp. If we repent our sins, and take his hand, He will lead us back to his kingdom.
I'm not sure I can say this with authority, but I think the Bible always uses God's voice to create and His outstretched hand to destroy. I'm sure I will be corrected if that's not the case.
excellent post. I fear you are exactly correct.
Fortunately God gives us an answer:
2 Chronicles 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
I used to think that too.
You are probably correct, because it is obvious from history that He wasn’t finished punishing them.
Thank you.
We can never stay outta God’s radar- can we?
Excellent. Thanks for posting this.
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Not when He lives in your heart. In our youth group, we recently had a study on sex and what the Bible says. When the teacher told the teens that The Holy Spirit was there with them always, what do you think He thinks when you get in the back seat of the car on a date? It got very quiet in the room. IMO, every youth group should discuss this topic. Mom and Dad may never find out, but God knows, EVERYTHING. Many denominations sorta skip over the Holy Spirit and teach Jesus and Jehovah. Jesus said I must go away, but I will send another. Many people say Jesus is in my heart. The Holy Spirit never brings attention to Himself, but always points to Jesus, but Jesus is at the Right hand of God and the Spirit is with you always. The Holy Spirit is what brought you back to life after being dead from the Garden of Eden. Our Spirit died and the Holy Spirit brings life and communion with God.
Too many signs are telling we are past the point of no return. Although we pray 2 Chronicles 7:14 every night. God is waking a lot of us up, I also notice more people digging in against Him. Good post.
I watched that link and wow! The only thing I can say is God is still giving us a chance to repent.
You may very well be correct, but my God is a mighty God and there is nothing to hard for Him. If everything is in His hands, if we do repent, He can reverse things quickly. The problem with Christians today is disbelief. They can't put together something that may have happened 10 years ago with a tragedy yesterday. The idea of prophesy is to warn His people in advance, sometimes hundreds of years in advance. Who would have guessed Nineveh would repent immediately. It's about belief. Belief saves you in more ways than one. If this message is repeated in several churches in several churches over the next year, maybe the Body would repent and turn in time to save or land. However, if we see more churches accepting this life style, our destruction is already etched in stone. Remember also that God ALWAYS has a remnant. Just as Noah and family was saved and Lot and family was saved, God always shows mercy when given the chance.
I'm not pretending to be a prophet, but I believe God never changes and He never apologized for Sodom and their fate.
Just as an aside, I was looking up some of these verses on Google, and there is a whole cottage industry on the net to try to prove The Bible doesn't really say what it clearly says and Bible scholars for thousands of years have interpreted hundreds of verses wrong. There are whole movements based on the reason Sodom was destroyed was due to being impolite to the angles and it was a custom in that day to show courtesy to a guest. Another said the verses describe rape and not homosexual "love". If you are a homosexual searching the Scriptures looking for some excuse to not rebel against God, ( believe it or not there are many homosexual believers), then they tend to glom on to these charlatans hoping God really approves of their lifestyle because it is based on "love". I even saw Jews that denied the Jews were in bondage in Egypt because they haven't found any evidence in the desert of a large number of "campers". If the church didn't love these souls, all we would have to do is shut up and allow God to judge. Can you imagine God watching His child sticking a bobby pin in a light socket and not slap their hand? Revealing what God's Word says is the most important act of love any Christian could do for humanity. The evil one will twist and lie to hide God's Word from these weak souls. It stokes my anger to see this. Our reward,....to be called a Bible thumper. Quoting the verses in the Bible keeps my spin off of it and lets the hearer hear what God wants him to hear. Maybe salvation, maybe nothing.
If the watchers eyes are open to the signs today and sound the alarm and enough people listen, He will turn back.
There are whole movements based on the reason Sodom was destroyed was due to being impolite to the angles and it was a custom in that day to show courtesy to a guest.
More evidence that we try to shape God's word to fit our sins.
Quoting the verses in the Bible keeps my spin off of it and lets the hearer hear what God wants him to hear. Maybe salvation, maybe nothing.
Truth to that. There's a saying that goes something like; If you were accused of being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict? You my friend, are guilty as charged. ;^)
As I was reading your reply, I had a vision come to my head that if I were in a coma for 10 years and woke up today and switched on the TV and saw what was going on in government, I would immediately go prostrate on the floor and pray God would forgive whatever we have done to earn this. I think Christians are having the boiling frog syndrome. If it takes 10 years, we must be all right. Sorta like the guy that commits adultery and doesn’t get hit with lightning as he goes to his car. Must be alright with God.
I think back 30yrs. AIDS was first on the seen. Who could ever imagine we would be debating homo-marriage? With God, anything is possible, but I think judgement is upon us.
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