Posted on 11/28/2014 9:44:39 PM PST by Steelfish
Most of the early church fathers were anti Semitic and their teachings were all colored through this perspective.
So don’t get trapped in the Protestant philosophy that actually says that if it isn’t in the Bible, then it can’t possibly be true.
For instance I believe Jesus was Mary`s only child but the Bible does not say that.
Most protestants believe Mary had other children but neither does the Bible say that.
Revelation 22
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
No doubt some one will tell me that it just means don`t take away or add to revelations, yeah real handy, it might be a good idea to use this same rule on the rest of the Bible.
When the Greeks and Romans departed from the Torah and turned the movement into a religio/political power grab they descended into heresy. That drift away from a truth took them so far from Torah that they ended up 180 degrees opposite the plain teaching of Scripture. By the third century they were indeed anti-Semitic as well as anti-Torah. In a word, lost. Sixteen hundred years of “scholarship” was just a journey into theological exile. This will not be healed until the so called “church” repents, goes back and re-learns the Torah. Until then the consolidated rigor of Christendom will be powerless to save the west or redeem mankind. Like a blind man playing scrabble with a pack of pirates.
By the third century they were indeed anti-Semitic as well as anti-Torah.
But I believe God preserved the scripture which we have in the bible, thanks.
Or rather I probably under stood ladyL wrong, as that is probably what she meant.
Anti-Semitic or anti Jew? Most of the Apostles were Jews, Jesus and His Mother were Jews. By the end of John’s Gospel it is clear the term Jew was used in a theological construct and had nothing to do with race or DNA.
Most protestants believe Mary had other children but neither does the Bible say that."I saw none of the other apostles—only James, the Lord’s brother." Galatians 1:19
Hey Look.. The Apostle were the 1st Catholics..
The Catholics were part of Finalizing the Old Testament in 70AD still with the same one today referred to by Apostles in new Testament.
I have Evangelical friends who Claim they don’t need to be Baptized.Even Christ was Baptized. I am told Tradition is Wrong while they quote me Baptist Tradition.
The immaturity is not reading or accepting the Early Church Fathers. , Not accepting the Eucharist. Not accepting the Grace of the Sacraments in the Bible.
I will place my Faith in the Interpretation of Disciples who listened to the apostles.
It is not easy to be a Catholic but to condemn us to Hell, Calling the POPE as the anit-christ and Mary as the whore of Babylon is extremely insulting, Uncharitable and Ignores The 2nd most important commandment. Love your Neighbor as yourself!
“I saw none of the other apostles—only James, the Lord’s brother.”
“I saw none of the other apostles—only James, the Lord’s brother.”
“It started out as an interesting discussion of early Church Fathers and turned into a snarky straw man attack on Protestants”.
That’s because in the protestant brain the early Church fathers were not Catholic. In the protestant mind the Catholic Church is given credit for nothing.
Hmmmmm, I posted a question and it has been removed ? I asked “,I thought the pope was infallible? Has this doctrine been changed?”
Does anyone have any idea why this would be removed?
What is sad is the way you proclaim one set of unclear and malleable man made traditions over what you claim to be man made traditions for the specific reason that one shouldn’t follow man made traditions.
Truly you have a dizzying intellect...
I don’t know what a theological construct is but Jew had everything to do with DNA and race. The Jewish people only came from ONE Tribe...THERE WERE TWELVE TRIBES. All twelve tribes were ISRAELITES... You are correct that Jesus and Mary were Jews from the Tribe of Judah BUT PAUL SAYS HE IS A BENJAMITE. Paul is NOT A JEW. Actually, Abraham, Issac, Jacob and even Moses are not Jews! So you see there was an ABSOLUTE differentiation...even James writes his letter TO THE TWELVE TRIBES SCATTERED... He doesn’t write to the “Jews”.
If you don’t understand the Truth your not going to be able to interpret scripture correctly.
Which nonCatholic denomination/sect/group do you assemble with ?
Men, brethren, and fathers, hear ye my defence which I make now unto you. (And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more silence: and he saith,) I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.
Rather the early Church fathers DID honor Bible based faith via their writings which do refer to scripture.
But still, for gentle correction, Paul was RAISED A JEW. He said it in his letters.
It was used, the term “brothers” to mean COUSINS of Jesus or at best, step-brothers if, and this would be a big “if”, Joseph was married before and was a widower.
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