Posted on 12/02/2017 7:18:48 PM PST by ebb tide
Martin Luther sparked the Protestant Reformation and was critical of what he considered excesses and corruptions in the Catholic Church. But did you know he continued to hold many Catholic doctrines about Mary?
Here are some quotes from Martin Luther about the Blessed Virgin Mary that may surprise you:
“She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child….
“Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God…. None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.” (source)
“God has formed the soul and body of the Virgin Mary full of the Holy Spirit, so that she is without all sins, for she has conceived and borne the Lord Jesus.” (source)
“Christ, our Savior, was the real and natural fruit of Mary’s virginal womb… This was without the cooperation of a man, and she remained a virgin after that. […] Christ… was the only Son of Mary, and the Virgin Mary bore no children besides Him.” (source; for more see this article)
“The veneration of Mary is inscribed in the very depths of the human heart.” (source)
“Mary is the Mother of Jesus and the Mother of all of us even though it was Christ alone who reposed on her knees… If he is ours, we ought to be in his situation; there where he is, we ought also to be and all that he has ought to be ours, and his mother is also our mother.” (source)
“[Mary is the] highest woman and the noblest gem in Christianity after Christ… She is nobility, wisdom, and holiness personified. We can never honor her enough. Still honor and praise must be given to her in such a way as to injure neither Christ nor the Scriptures.” (source)
[See also: The Forgotten Method for Praying the Rosary that Could Change Your Life]
[See also: 5 Protestants Who Surprisingly Defended Mary’s Perpetual Virginity]
Don’t know about that, but to have modern day lutherans shilling for $$$ to resettle arabs who are muslims into the us is bad as bad can be.
Those actions do not earn anyone their salvation.
No one is saved by their good works, no one can boast their good works save them. God alone saves. Jesus is sufficient.
If Jesus was trying to teach that works don’t matter, then his whole account of the Last Judgment is the biggest botch-job in the history of preaching.
Catholics would be well advised if they adopted the same principle.
4But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.
8For by grace you have been saved through faith
; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
9not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
10For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them. Ephesians 2:4-10 NASB
What "work" can you do to receive this free gift given by God?
The works Paul writes about in v10 come after we are saved.
Jesus made clear what our "works" do for us.
"My Father is glorified by this, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be My disciples." John 15:8 NASB
The Greek verb for prove is γένησθε(γίνομαι). It conveys the following meaning:
1096 gínomai – properly, to emerge, become, transitioning from one point (realm, condition) to another. 1096 (gínomai) fundamentally means "become" (becoming, became) so it is not an exact equivalent to the ordinary equative verb "to be" (is, was, will be) as with 1510 /eimí (1511 /eínai, 2258 /ēn).
1096 (ginomai) means "to become, and signifies a change of condition, state or place" (Vine, Unger, White, NT, 109).
True, if it ain’t in Scripture
It might be a lie.
I am pretty much convinced that on these theads
a person must be on one side or the other.
It has become just like two political partys
or two foot ball teams.
I agree with Luther that Jesus was Marys only child
and she Most likely remained a virgin, because that
Is the only thing which makes sense.
I could not care less about the name on the door
Of the church no matter how cheap or expensive it is.
I believe what I think the word off God says, any thing
Else may be a lie.
The God portion of Him has always been here. The part of Him that was man was created with Mary but God could have chosen another sinful person for the honor of birthing Him.
We're glad you're here.
Glad youre here
...,..,...........
Thank you, I feel at home.
Where do the portions come from? Jesus is God’s only
Begotten son, Christ was the word and was incarnated
Into God’s son.
God is a mystery above our ability to comprehend.
To have a mother, you have a beginning. God has no beginning.
The contrary error is the error of Nestorianism, which usually ends up supposing that Jesus is two persons, one human and one divine, who are sort of co-located or associated with each other in a mysterious way. That’s not orthodox Christology, Catholic, Protestant, or Eastern Orthodox.
All mothers have a beginning.
There was/is a Christian church called Nestorian or Church of the East.
That is so true.
**All mothers have a beginning.**
And their offspring are “begat”.
God was never begat. God is a Spirit. God is not an image. There are images that are from God, physical expressions used to express to mankind the ways of God. That’s why the Son of man gave himself absolutely no credit for anything divine. But gave all divine honor to God the Father, who empowered him to work the works of God.
Peter’s witnesses on Pentecost, and to Cornelius, are textbook examples of the proper testimony concerning the Godhead.
That’s why the question: Where is the Father not at?.... so pertinent when needing to build a foundation of understanding. It’s why the Lord Jesus spent a good deal of time, in the gospel of John, talking about the Father.
Though Augustine, Aquinas, Anselm, and even the great venerator of Mary, Saint Bernard, held that Mary had been infected by original sin, the later Middle Ages saw the rise of theologians supporting her sinlessness.
That group of ECFs are huge in Roman Catholicism...yet they reject one of Roman Catholicism's core beliefs.
It continues to illustrate why Christianity does not recognize Roman Catholic "Tradition".
The contrary error is the error of Nestorianism, which usually ends up supposing that Jesus is two persons, one human and one divine, who are sort of co-located or associated with each other in a mysterious way. That's not orthodox Christology, Catholic, Protestant, or Eastern Orthodox.
The whole problem could have been resolved with an appeal to John.
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 4In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. 5The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.<
6There came a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7He came as a witness, to testify about the Light, so that all might believe through him. 8He was not the Light, but he came to testify about the Light.
9There was the true Light which, coming into the world, enlightens every man. 10He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him. 12But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, 13who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
14And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15John testified about Him and cried out, saying, “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me has a higher rank than I, for He existed before me.’” 16For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace. 17For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ. 18No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.
Jonh 1:1-18 NASB
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