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Pope Francis Denies the Existence of Hell
Rorate Caeli | 03-29-2018

Posted on 03/29/2018 7:40:27 AM PDT by NRx

[Scalfari:] Your Holiness, in our previous meeting you told me that our species will disappear in a certain moment and that God, still out of his creative force, will create new species. You have never spoken to me about the souls who died in sin and will go to hell to suffer it for eternity. You have however spoken to me of good souls, admitted to the contemplation of God. But what about bad souls? Where are they punished?

[Francis:] "They are not punished, those who repent obtain the forgiveness of God and enter the rank of souls who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear. There is no hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls."


TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: frontpage; hell; isthepopecatholic; popefrancis; popefrancishell; thelastpope
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Salvation; ebb tide
If you have any charity in your heart, pray for this disastrous pope to be deposed.

Sorry; but he's YOUR albatross.

You folks need to do the removin', since y'all voted him into office.


Is there some kind of test that a MAN should take to see how well he's been catechized?

Were there no red flags from his past?

Heck; even Obama was a community organizer!

121 posted on 03/29/2018 1:12:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
PAPAL INFALLIBILITY EXPLAINED IN TWO MINUTES

The ability to ELECT bad popes can't be explained at all!

122 posted on 03/29/2018 1:13:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Campion
All the documentation I've seen ...

Why do I have this feeling that you are about to SEE stuff you had NO idea existed.

And from ROME; too!

123 posted on 03/29/2018 1:14:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone
Well, there are different levels of authority. The Ordinary Magisterium is authoritative, for instance, simply because it is a restatement or repetition of previous authoritative teaching, e.g. "Jesus Christ is Lord." It doesn't need the additional Gothic-lettering-and-gold-leaf--- so to speak --- of an official "ex cathedra" pronouncement.

Protestants and ignorant Catholics tend to imagine the Pope to be (or to claim to be) an active all-purpose oracle. That is simply false. By far the bulk of the Petrine ministry is simply the confirmation and transmission of this Ordinary Magisterium, i.e. passing on the Deposit of Faith.

But I think you know that.

124 posted on 03/29/2018 1:15:47 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Unless I am mistaken, I'm infallible.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
"Not required to read it without the direct supervision of a priest."

False. And risible.

Where do you get this stuff?

125 posted on 03/29/2018 1:16:59 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Tell the truth and shame the devil.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

P.S. I just got back from the doctor’s office.


126 posted on 03/29/2018 1:17:38 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Tell the truth and shame the devil.)
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To: Elsie

There have certainly been bad popes elected in the past. Everyone knows that. The Holy Spirit does not annihilate human free will, which is always operative -— even in popes -— for good or ill.


127 posted on 03/29/2018 1:19:15 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Tell the truth and shame the devil.)
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To: Elsie
" Sorry; but he's YOUR albatross."


Not sure who this quote is from. It doesn't seem to be you. It's someone who won't pray.

128 posted on 03/29/2018 1:20:58 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Tell the truth and shame the devil.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

And so much of Roman Catholic teaching is not found among the Apostles. But I think you know that.


129 posted on 03/29/2018 1:24:39 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: AlaskaErik
That lowlife scumbag Marxist thug is going to pay dearly when he arrives at the Pearly Gates and is sent straight to Hell.

Why?


Revelation 21:25
On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there.


Why has the story continued to this day that St. Pete is going to judge whether folks get through a gate in Heaven?

The Book ROME assembled so long ago does not place him in that position.

130 posted on 03/29/2018 1:25:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Hope all is well. I’ve noticed as I get more road behind me I see the dr more!


131 posted on 03/29/2018 1:25:51 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: nobamanomore

Are you saying there isn’t a literal hell?


132 posted on 03/29/2018 1:29:40 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Campion
"Discouraged" by whom? Officially? Informally? Where's the documentation?

Good questions...


 

Decree of the Council of Toulouse (1229 C.E.): “We prohibit also that the laity should be permitted to have the books of the Old or New Testament; but we most strictly forbid their having any translation of these books.”

Ruling of the Council of Tarragona of 1234 C.E.: “No one may possess the books of the Old and New Testaments in the Romance language, and if anyone possesses them he must turn them over to the local bishop within eight days after promulgation of this decree, so that they may be burned...”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/bernard-starr/why-christians-were-denied-access-to-their-bible-for-1000-years_b_3303545.html
 

Proclamations at the Ecumenical Council of Constance in 1415 C.E.: Oxford professor, and theologian John Wycliffe, was the first (1380 C.E.) to translate the New Testament into English to “...helpeth Christian men to study the Gospel in that tongue in which they know best Christ’s sentence.” For this “heresy” Wycliffe was posthumously condemned by Arundel, the archbishop of Canterbury. By the Council’s decree “Wycliffe’s bones were exhumed and publicly burned and the ashes were thrown into the Swift River.”

Fate of William Tyndale in 1536 C.E.: William Tyndale was burned at the stake for translating the Bible into English. According to Tyndale, the Church forbid owning or reading the Bible to control and restrict the teachings and to enhance their own power and importance.


133 posted on 03/29/2018 1:30:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Campion
Protestants can't agree on which of Jesus' teachings apply to them.

Call no man father.

134 posted on 03/29/2018 1:31:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Delta 21
I figured I would try to start with a universal constant, outside of religion, that everyone could agree upon. Probly already on shaky ground.

Indiana has already tried to make π equal to 3.

135 posted on 03/29/2018 1:34:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
The Catholic Church doesn’t need the repeated black eyes this fool gives it.

It has withstood worse...


 


Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

136 posted on 03/29/2018 1:37:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Protestants and ignorant Catholics tend to imagine...

Why do you guys even HAVE 'ignorant' members?

Isn't there a yearly test or something to make SURE every one is up to speed; theology wise?

Or are there too many holy days and feasts and saints and Mary promises to keep up with anyway?

137 posted on 03/29/2018 1:40:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: NRx
There is no hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls.

Hmmm ...

Catholic hell = Buddhist heaven?

138 posted on 03/29/2018 1:41:52 PM PDT by x
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Not sure who this quote is from.

Why; even a child can see it's from ME!


It doesn't seem to be you. It's someone who won't pray.

Yup; that's me, all right!!

I will NOT 'pray' (and possibly use the Lord's Name in vain) for this duly elected man to be removed from power: from the chair of Peter.


Besides; we Prots have been told COUNTLESS times by our FR Catholic friends that GOD will not hear our prayers anyway!

139 posted on 03/29/2018 1:44:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

“Call no man father.”

Was Christ guilty of this when he referred to Father Abraham in the parable of Lazarus and the rich man? How about Paul, or James, or John, in numerous epistles referring to Abraham, or to ‘fathers’, or to themselves as father (as Paul did in the first letter to the Corinthians)?

In the immediate preceding verse, Christ said to let no one call you Rabbi, or teacher; does this mean we refer to no one by that title who fits the qualifications?

Or could it be, perhaps, that our Lord was speaking about something more fundamental than a mere title?

/as for the topic at hand
//I await the day that the greater Church recognizes Bergoglio as an antipope
///and recognizes the continued tenure of Benedict XVI


140 posted on 03/29/2018 1:49:28 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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