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Is Christianity Just Wishful Thinking?
Depths of Pentecost ^ | May 5, 2018 | Philip Cottraux

Posted on 05/06/2018 1:49:30 PM PDT by pcottraux

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To: Zeneta

Great testimony, thank you for sharing. I love to hear perspectives on Christianity from people who have experienced every other belief system in the world and found them lacking.


61 posted on 05/07/2018 1:42:23 PM PDT by pcottraux ( depthsofpentecost.com)
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To: tired&retired

I’m glad there’s still some civil discussion in the world. It’s the Wild West on social media. I’ve been called every vile disgusting name you can imagine on Twitter by atheists and told to go to unspeakable things to myself. Over time I just had to learn to ignore it.

It would be interesting to be able to do an in-person lecture rather than over the anonymity of the internet, where cyberbullying can all-too-easily emerge.


62 posted on 05/07/2018 1:45:36 PM PDT by pcottraux ( depthsofpentecost.com)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Amen, amen, and amen!


63 posted on 05/07/2018 1:46:25 PM PDT by pcottraux ( depthsofpentecost.com)
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To: pcottraux

Freud came up with most of his theories because he was trying to hide his diddling of women who weren’t his wife. Yes cocaine addiction plays an important part in that


64 posted on 05/07/2018 2:46:07 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: pcottraux

And by the way....Thomas Jefferson did not impregnate Sally. It was one of his relatives a brother or an uncle


65 posted on 05/07/2018 2:47:57 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

Well even if it’s true, it’s still not as dumb as his support for the French Revolution.

Or hus yeoman farmers program.


66 posted on 05/07/2018 3:12:32 PM PDT by pcottraux ( depthsofpentecost.com)
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To: boatbums
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Nothing is imputed to us unless we are in obedience to the Father's commandments. Grace and iniquity don't mix.
Matthew 7:

[15] Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
[16] Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
[17] Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
[18] A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
[19] Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
[20] Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
[21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
[22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (Lawlessness)

Matthew 24:

[11] And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
[12] And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
[13] But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Endure to the end in what fashion?

Endure in slopping up all the grace you can find?

Or endure in Yehova’s covenant?

Tough choice! I'll pick enduring in the Father's commandments, as Yeshua suggested in ch 7.

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67 posted on 05/07/2018 3:20:29 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Luircin

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One thing there is zero doubt about is Yehova’s name!

It is found in Tanakh thousands of times many with full vowels.

It is also found in the Hebrew original versions of the gospels with vowels, which we now have available thanks to the digitizations of all the MS in the Vatican archives.

You want to promote the adversary’s false attack on his name? Be my guest!
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68 posted on 05/07/2018 3:27:16 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: pcottraux
Absolutely true, and also why I'm not a humanist. Even if I were an atheist, I would reject utopianist nonsense.

Do you think perhaps the Utopian fantasy is some kind of innate longing for a return to Eden? I mean, a Utopia without God IS impossible just as the idea that humans are capable of creating such a thing knowing the propensity we have naturally towards depravity. If we could ever create such a place, it wouldn't take long for the worst among us to destroy it.

70 posted on 05/07/2018 3:45:23 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Lay off the personal abuse!

Your little nasty attack on me has been reported.


72 posted on 05/07/2018 4:00:32 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: pcottraux

I think when we are faced with the vile and disgusting attacks from non-believers, it helps to remember where (who?) their anger and hate comes from. They realize - intrinsically, perhaps - that they have made a choice and the consequences of the wrong one are dire. Pasqual’s wager.


73 posted on 05/07/2018 4:01:45 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Look buddy. I get it. You’re really really emotionally invested in this Rood guy. I have no idea why you are, but to be honest, that’s not really my business. And you hate it when people contradict him, as your accusations on this thread of people being in league with Satan show.

But quite frankly, his teachings don’t stand up to scrutiny, and I’m not gonna lie to you about Rood’s lack of evidence or lack of convincing arguments just so you can feel good about yourself.

Follow the man if you like, but stop calling people demonic just because you can’t convince us to do the same.


74 posted on 05/07/2018 4:04:30 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: boatbums

I think when we are faced with the vile and disgusting attacks from non-believers, it helps to remember where (who?) their anger and hate comes from. They realize - intrinsically, perhaps - that they have made a choice and the consequences of the wrong one are dire. Pasqual’s wager.

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One of them is on this very thread!


75 posted on 05/07/2018 4:05:13 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: editor-surveyor
Dude. Biblical Hebrew doesn't HAVE vowels. The vowel markings were added centuries later. So no, God's name is not 'Yehova.' It's יהוה‬. With no written vowels.
76 posted on 05/07/2018 4:06:20 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: editor-surveyor

Yes, and they used the word ‘Adonai’ when using the Lord’s name, because they didn’t want to say the Lord’s name out loud, so they used the vowel markings for ‘Adonai.’

I know my history.

Also, lay off the personal abuse before you get the thread locked again.


79 posted on 05/07/2018 4:26:54 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: editor-surveyor
Believing in the one he sent is described in full detail in John’s first epistle. It is not the intellectual belief that you cling to. (”Satan and his angels so believe and tremble”) .

What makes you think I believe all it takes is an "intellectual belief"? The demons believe that there is a God and they all know who Jesus Christ is and they tremble because they KNOW their end, but I think we both know demons were never redeemed by Christ's sacrifice - it was not meant for them.

What you cling to is your false assurance that you can make yourself worthy of God's grace by your works and "obedience". Paul says you have fallen from grace along with all those who think the same way. God wants us to surrender to the truth that we are incapable of saving ourselves and we must throw ourselves upon the mercy of God, trusting in HIM and not ourselves. That's the only way GRACE works. Until you open your heart to this truth you will continue to strive for the unattainable.

80 posted on 05/07/2018 4:29:50 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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