NOW I understand...
Posted on 06/10/2018 6:42:31 PM PDT by marshmallow
June 5, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) – Using contraception is an “intrinsic evil” in all circumstances because it “cuts off one of the goals of marriage which is an openness to life,” Kansas City Archbishop Joseph Naumann told LifeSiteNews.
Any question on this issue lies on the level of moral culpability for those who do use it, he added.
“Circumstances can affect the culpability, [but] it doesn't affect the rightness or wrongness of the act,” he said.
Speaking exclusively with LifeSiteNews, the incoming chair for the U.S. Bishops’ pro-life committee said further that following the Church’s teaching on contraception is an attainable goal, and that people simply need good confessors to help them understand that fact.
“Good confessors can help and guide people through this, and, I think, help every individual realize that the moral good the moral law is attainable for all of us.”
LifeSiteNews Editor-in-chief and co-founder John-Henry Westen had asked Archbishop Naumann in the context of this year’s 50th anniversary of Humanae Vitae whether it was, in fact, the case — as some bishops suggesting at the time of the document’s release — that Catholic couples may still use contraception if they feel in conscience that they were justified, and if not, whether this would make them ineligible then to receive Holy Communion.
Archbishop Naumann confirmed the Church’s teaching on contraception as a moral evil, as well as Church teaching that each and every conjugal act must be open to life.
“I think objectively contraception, and we see this in the Catechism, it is clear about that, that there is an intrinsic evil to use it,” the archbishop said, “because it cuts off one of the goals of marriage, which is an openness to life.”
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I've seen it far too many times how Catholics use these kinds of topics to assert their moral (and theological) superiority to all other Christian denominations. Y'all certainly are right on many things - but you're not alone either - but that doesn't translate to you must therefor be right about EVERYTHING and everyone must follow Rome. It's not a contest.
As I mentioned to our dear metmom, this does not bode well for productive dialogue. I opt at this point for strawberry ice cream, and I bid you God's peace for the night.
You are the one saying they are in a wad.
Perhaps believing such unbelievable stuff put forward from Rome has clouded your ability to navigate the logic of human nature.
Shouldn't ROME be answering this?
That's a damned good question!!!
"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours."
--Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)
Ladies; once you’ve gone thru the Change...
NOW I understand...
I saw no need to go down your rabbit hole.
Even Catholic 'tradition' doesn't DARE to claim there was ANYTHING wrong with either Joseph's or Mary's 'private' parts.
You've left out CATHOLIC authority.
If it’s not a contest, why do you always trying to make it one. You’re equating defending our faith from attack as if we are insisting you must “follow Rome”. We have beliefs that we express that are constantly questioned, mocked, sneered at and when we dare to defend it by explaining our reasoning suddenly we’re insisting that you must accept it or else. I repeat, you are free to believe as you choose. The whole concept of faith is a personal decision on how you approach your relationship with God. That you feel someone is compelling you to “follow Rome” is in your own mind. The only way someone can have that kind of power over you is if you allow it.
“There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.” - Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen
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“God said “Go forth, be fertile and multiply.” Contraception does not follow God’s Instructions for all.”
I knew a guy with 7 kids. 6 had genetic defects. All are supported by the state. Not convinced that “openness to life” was appropriate. And the earth has plenty of people...
If it was just about having babies...horses and dogs do so efficiently enough by having the female come into heat.
No - I’m saying (again) that Scripture is silent on the subject because it is not relevant to our salvation. Therefore it is simply a matter of faith. My faith believes she conceived as a Virgin and remained a virgin. I’ll defend my reasons and you’re free to reject them. Problem is, you don’t simply reject - you mock and insult, then claim it’s “quite laughable” when you’re asked why.
So, I ask again - what does it matter to you whether they did or did not have marital relations? How does it affect your salvation and your relationship with God?
I disagree with you. All those children, even with defects, have a soul. Animals don’t.
And each of those disabled children will be beautiful in heaven.
Blessed are the poor!
“I disagree with you. All those children, even with defects, have a soul. Animals don’t.”
And each is supported by other peoples’ money. And it isn’t as if either heaven or the USA will be unpopulated without more babies being born, regardless of life expectancy or health.
We AREN’T unthinking animals. WE CAN MAKE CHOICES ABOUT WHEN TO PROCREATE! Women don’t come into heat, and men don’t have an overpowering compulsion to screw every fertile woman they meet! Not all men act like Hollywood directors!
This debate reminds me of when my sister, newly converted, told my Mom we shouldn’t lock our doors because “God will protect us”. My Mom stared at her and replied, “And God gave me locks and the will to use them!”
Enjoy your ice cream. Should you decide to come back, please read what people actually reply rather than just a knee-jerk reaction. The disagreement wasn’t with sources but the conclusion you seemed to make by quoting them.
But I also recognize a logjam when I see it and agree that this dialogue is pointless.
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