Posted on 06/10/2018 6:42:31 PM PDT by marshmallow
We know that Mary did not remain a virgin because Scripture tells us.
It does have the English translation and it says “and your conception” in the English following the Hebrew word
I presume you use natural health practices as well and reject the use of modern medicine.
Just let nature take it’s course and stop interfering with God’s will, eh?
Yes, the horror of it all. I think I will just keep doing what I am doing. I am enjoying it. 😁😊🤣😇😆
Medicine is for restoring the function of the non-functional organ or system. Curing the sick. Straighening out the abnormal. Stengthening a weak power.
Contraception is for impeding the functional. Drugging the healthy. Altering a normal system to make it work abnormally. Weakening a natural power.
Contraception is not legitimate medicine. It treats a healthy woman, robustly female and complete in every detail, as if her full sexual function were a disease.
What does the little blue pill treat a man like? Anyway, it’s 2 AM in this south sea island 🌴 paradise, so it’s off to sleep, if I can keep all the chickens runnie around here quiet. 👍
Fertility is a sign of health in every species. With wisdom and appreciation, you can cooperate with its delicately-balanced, elegant structure, either to achieve or to avoid pregnancy. Or you can throw a monkey-wrench into the structure.
The purpose of contraception is to be that monkey-wrench.
It treats our bodies' beautiful design, inside and out, as a glitch, not a feature.
It treats women's generative power as an abnormality to be doctored, altered, and "fixed."
I am a big fan of restoring the normal.
My wife and I thought we were done at 7 kids. I can't remember why we thought that, maybe it was our age or maybe I thought I'd really figured out rhythm. When she conceived our 8th child she was depressed for 2 months because she thought she was done.
Well we just celebrated the graduation of our 8th child. He is an absolutely amazing young man and in certain ways he is the most special of all 8. Isn't it funny how the Lord works. Hmmmm, I wonder why we quit having kids after #8.....
And you are missing the whole point of the concept - which is NOT that sex is just for making babies - just that all acts of sex must be open to the possibility that making babies could be a consequence - a distinction that obviously you can’t or (more likely) refuse to acknowledge.
”Defiance?” As in disobeying an order? Really?
Rome’s ‘Mary’ is described as PERMANENTLY abstaining; while her husband is permanently deprived; even of NFP.
So you’re saying that somewhere in Paul’s writings he states irrefutably that Mary and Joseph had marital relations? Pray tell, how did he know this, seeing that he was not around at the time. Did God tell him?
I’m always curious as to why it is so important to you and others whether or not they did. As a Catholic, I prefer to believe that being the mother of the Son of God was a life-altering event that superseded a normal ho-hum existence. You prefer to believe that Mary was in no way affected by the experience and proceeded with life as if nothing unusual happened. That’s fine - but how does believing one or the other make a difference in your relationship with God and why does it trigger you so?
No, it doesn’t.
It’s the same kind of principle as annulments vs. divorce. Catholic hierarchy can deem some things a mortal sin one day (i.e., using a condom) and not a sin at all the next (using a condom if you have AIDS). I don’t know about you, but it smells like hypocrisy to me.
THANK YOU! That's exactly what I've been saying. Now, if only the U.S. Archbishop would come to that realization.
You’re obviously not Catholic. You are free to ignore him to your heart’s content. Who’s forcing you to give a crap?
He pointed out that what is objectively wrong, is objectively wrong.
That's his job.
I conclude what I already stated. God's word commands us to abstain from sexual immorality, adultery, fornication and murder. Do you think this doesn't apply to the issue under discussion? Having sex with someone NOT your spouse is prohibited. Using any kind of contraception that causes the death of the unborn is prohibited - certainly abortion falls under that. When the BC pill first came out, it was restricted to married couples (the Comstock Act). No one really was told the pill's hormones had a secondary effect that if a fertile egg was released and fertilization happened, the embryo/zygote was prevented from attaching to the uterine wall essentially causing an abortion. It was quite nefarious that the drug maker didn't clarify that point or tried to hide it. When this fact became more widely known and the other harmful effects of the hormones came out, many, many women stopped using the pill. Information about the IUD was more informative and it's main function was specifically to make the uterine wall repel an egg from implantation. I certainly think more information should be given to women about these products. If they knew what they were using directly or indirectly caused expulsion and death of an embryo, perhaps they would not use them.
If you want to use the Onan story (as Catholicism does) to condemn withdrawal, then you ought to also know that most Bible scholars believe God's judgment of Onan was about his disobedience to father a child in his brother's name with his widow and he refused. That makes more sense to me that a blanket condemnation of using withdrawal as a method - though highly ineffective - to prevent pregnancy.
And yet...
Ham saw his father naked; but C anaan was cursed.
Strange.
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