Posted on 11/05/2018 1:55:29 PM PST by boatbums
Last I heard, there was no such thing.
Why would Protestants/non-catholics want to discuss purgatory? I’d have more to say about Hogwarts or Middle Earth.
The main function of purgatory is control of people here in the temporal world. It’s also very good for the penance industry. It’s harder to bilk indulgence money out of people fully assured of their salvation without a pony hell they have to spend 3 to 5 in first.
I’m catholic and OF COURSE there’s a Purgatory.
It’s in Maine.
Use the GPS for directions.
Real or not, it’s a creepy name for a town :)
In Roman Catholic theology, purgatory is an intermediate state after physical death in which some of those ultimately destined for heaven must first "undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven," holding that "certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come." And that entrance into Heaven requires the "remission before God of the temporal punishment due to sins whose guilt has already been forgiven," for which indulgences may be given which remove "either part or all of the temporal punishment due to sin," such as an "unhealthy attachment" to sin
It’s not in Maine, that’s just along the way.
It’s in New Brunswick!..................
ROFL!!
In the Old Testament sacrificial system, the sinner brought a lamb to the priest. The priest inspected the lamb, not the sinner, to see if it was perfect. If so, then it was sacrificed, and the sinner was atoned for.
Today we have the perfect Lamb. The sinner presents this atonement, it is found to be perfect, and so the sinner receives the atonement.
(The condition of the sinner is never inspected; he’s not the one being offered; nor is the atonement ever said to be only partial or insufficient.)
Prayers for the dead express hope that God will free the person who has died from any burden of sin and prepare a place for him or her in heaven.
Death remains a mystery for us–a great unknown. Yet Christian language evokes a hopeful imagination in the presence of death, an assurance that our love, linked to Christ’s love, can help bridge whatever barriers might keep those whom we love from fully enjoying the presence of a loving and life-giving God.
Consequently purgatory and all the pomp, services, and business transactions associated with it are to be regarded as nothing else than illusions of the devil, for purgatory, too, is contrary to the fundamental article that Christ alone, and not the work of man, can help souls.
Sure looks like he was conciliatory to the subject. C'mon man!
If we are washed clean by the Blood, if salvation is a free gift and not by works, if we have been perfected forever, if our sins were as crimson but now are as white as snow, then what purpose would purgatory serve? It doesn’t make sense.
John 3:36
“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”
No third option. Solemn: Wrath Abitheth
Regardless of what he said about purgatory, I think his late embrace of rabid anti-Semitism stands as a warning about his failure as a thinker.
Catholics sure like to make things up. Remember Limbo? That’s where unbaptized babies went. I’ve never seen Purgatory mentioned in the bible.
If such a thing had to exist as a necessary purification, how would it be possible to “indulge” out of it?
We understand the sanctifying (and growing) experience of passing through trials on earth. “Count it all joy when you encounter various trials.” (Which, fair enough, is easier to do in retrospect, viewing it through a now known victory.)
But death itself is the final trial. “Neither death nor life shall separate us from the love of Christ.”
“Prayers for the dead express hope that God will free the person who has died from any burden of sin and prepare a place for him or her in heaven.
But this is not found in Scripture.
If the person entrusted himself to Christ alone, he will join Him in heaven.
HE is perfect.
His sacrifice was perfect.
His payment for sin was complete.
He said, “it is finished.”
Logical Fallacy: Changing the subject, Hitler Ate Sugar.
Typical.
Neither have you seen "Trinity". Both are Latin words. The Bible was written in Greek and Hebrew.
Who are the people who are "saved, but as through fire" mentioned in 1 Cor 3:15?
An easily angered man, Luther carried institutional Catholic prejudices along in his vision of Christianity. Other Christians were to prove better witnesses to Jews.
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