Posted on 11/05/2018 1:55:29 PM PST by boatbums
I read through Luther’s collected works one summer about 23 years ago (I still remember the Library of Congress call number off the top of my head because I had to go back and forth to pick up 50 or so volumes a few at a time: BR 330.E5 1955).
Luther believed in Purgatory until the late 1520s. He essentially emptied it of meaning as time went by. He finally fully discarded it because it no longer could fit into his invented system.
“Catholics sure like to make things up. Remember Limbo? That’s where unbaptized babies went. I’ve never seen Purgatory mentioned in the bible.”
And you’ve never seen sola scriptura or even “Bible” mentioned in the Bible either. The “Trinity” is also not mentioned in the Bible. Sola fide is mentioned - and essentially condemned.
Also, Maccabees contains false teaching, that renders it non-canonical...
2 Maccabees 12:43–4543 He also took up a collection, man by man, to the amount of two thousand drachmas of silver, and sent it to Jerusalem to provide for a sin offering. In doing this he acted very well and honorably, taking account of the resurrection. 44 For if he were not expecting that those who had fallen would rise again, it would have been superfluous and foolish to pray for the dead. 45 But if he was looking to the splendid reward that is laid up for those who fall asleep in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Therefore he made atonement for the dead, so that they might be delivered from their sin.
Money never buys forgiveness for sin.
If someone believe it does, I think they'd be giving their life savings to save themselves.
And on judgement day, they'd find themselves standing in the wrong line, surrounded by goats.
Meant to ping you to the post above!
I wonder if most people from the OTC, will be met at the pearly gates, by Luther? I wonder if many will ask Luther, why are you here? I thought you were supposed to be in the “other place.” I used to believe in Purgatory. I don’t now. 👎
Sin cannot enter Heaven and the presence of God. Purgatory supposedly burns it away, purges it. But the Bible says that accepting Christ’s sacrifice removes sin. So there is nothing to purge.
For God so loved the world, He gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever BELIEVETH IN HIM should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
Sola fide is mentioned - and essentially condemned.
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That little word ‘essentially’ means that sola fide is NOT condemned but certain people really really want it to be.
If this is a James 2 argument again, it would be really nice if Roman Catholics would read and present an argument from the whole book instead of hunting for verses to confirm what they’ve already decided is true.
James described what he meant when he used the word ‘faith’ and it’s not the same thing as what Paul means when HE uses the word ‘faith’ and so that blows the Catholic argument right out of the water.
Conversely, the Catholic doctrine of venal and mortal sin is completely destroyed by the epistle of James, but they keep on preaching it for some reason.
Something about taking a plank out of your own eye...
Today, I think there is nothing undisputed in scripture and that includes both Bergoglio’s and Luther’s interpretation of scripture.
A loving God will not turn His back upon the truly innocent.
If people in the OTC are entering into the kingdom of heaven, the false doctrines of the OTC will have been removed from their minds and hearts, so they’ll meet Brother Luther with joy.
Yes, I think it was, but from what I have been reading, Purgatory, along with a ton of other places, is still open for mining development. 👍
Sorry Joe, but Paul isn’t beseeching either.
Disagreeing with your claims is not lying.
Also, why do you keep assuming others are lying??
I’m mind reading and making it personal are a violation of the religion forum.
Yes. Thanks for the link.
Agree! Only by the shedding of blood is there remission of sins - that’s what God’s word says.
No, it doesn't.
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