Posted on 01/15/2020 11:31:27 AM PST by Antoninus
In about AD 530, when Italy was ruled by the unstable successors of the Ostrogothic king Theodoric immediately prior to the Byzantine re-conquest, many noblemen of Rome entrusted their young sons to Benedictus, a holy monk who lived in the mountains of nearby Subiaco. One such boy was Maurus who is identified by Saint Gregory the Great as the son of a noble named Evitius. Another was Placidus, who was brought by Tertullius, a senator.
These two were among earliest disciples of a man who would be known to history of St. Benedict of Nursia.
Writing about 60 years after the fact in his Dialogues, Pope Saint Gregory the Great tells us that Maurus, “growing to great virtue, began to be his master's coadjutor.” Maurus is mentioned as part of several episodes in Gregory’s biography of Benedict as contained in the Dialogues. The best known of these anecdotes runs as follows:
On a certain day, as venerable Benedict was, in his cell, the foresaid young Placidus, the holy man's monk, went out to take up water at the lake, and putting down his pail carelessly, fell in himself after it, whom the water forthwith carried away from the land so far as one may shoot an arrow. The man of God, being in his cell, by and by knew this, and called in haste for Maurus, saying: "Brother Maurus, run as fast as you can, for Placidus, that went to the lake to fetch water, is fallen in, and is carried a good way off."Saint Maurus would later become famous in his own right. According to tradition, he was sent by Benedict, in company with several other monks, to found a community in the kingdom of the Franks nearby the Loire River. This became Glanfeuil Abbey and the village which grew up around it became known as Saint-Maur-sur-Loire. In the late 19th century, archaeological excavations were undertaken around the modern abbey, which had been destroyed and rebuilt several times over its history, revealing Gallo-Roman sub-structures.A strange thing, and since the time of Peter the Apostle never heard of! Maurus, craving his father's blessing, and departing in all haste at his commandment, ran to that place upon the water, to which the young lad was carried by force thereof, thinking that he had all that while gone upon the land: and taking fast hold of him by the hair of his head, in all haste he returned back again: and so soon as he was at land, coming to himself he looked behind him, and then knew very well that he had before run upon the water: and that which before he durst not have presumed, being now done and past, he both marveled, and was afraid at that which he had done.
Coming back to the father, and telling him what had happened, the venerable man did not attribute this to his own merits, but to the obedience of Maurus: but Maurus on the contrary, said that it was done only upon his commandment, and that he had nothing to do in that miracle, not knowing at that time what he did. But the friendly contention proceeding of mutual humility, the young youth himself that was saved from drowning did determine: for he said that he saw when he was drawn out of the water the Abbot's garment upon his head, affirming that it was he that had delivered him from that great danger.
Sadly, the modern abbey was abandoned in 1901 after the monks were driven out of France. It now seems to be privately owned without much external evidence of what it once was. Alas.
On the traditional calendar, the feast of Saint Maurus is commemorated on January 15 along with that of Saint Placidus. These saints are often confused with others of the same or similar names.
Nah, the usage of God’s Holy word to do perverts truth is found in all the new belief systems that have been created since the 1500s - including the ones you state.
Actually you do read of praying to the saints in the book of Maccabees.
And to the point of paganism - that’s more in line with the non-Christian beliefs that one finds outside orthodoxy.
Say, your group is outside orthodoxy, right?
So now you say that we Christians have Christianity stolen from the Jews???
Perhaps you need to read the Bible especially the book of Revelation which talks of the Church as the New Jerusalem.
Come to the Church of the Pentecost - the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church — and leave your non-Christian beliefs behind including that perversion of scripture that is outside orthodoxy
No, I said Catholics have tried to steal from Jews, that which God gave to them, and pull it into the church age where it does not belong.
You also read the following which is a grave error, proving the book is not Scripture...
2 Maccabbees 12:43, "And making a gathering, he sent twelve thousand drachms of silver to Jerusalem for sacrifice to be offered for the sins of the dead, thinking well and religiously concerning the resurrection."
Say, your group is outside orthodoxy, right?
My gathering is Biblical, without the accretion of errors seen in Catholicism and the Orthodox.
This was in response and refutation to the claim :
“Nothing in Scripture ever teaches that any departed believer can even hear us, let alone do anything about it...”
Christ - True God and True Man spoke to Lazarus and Lazarus heard
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Not quite sure what you mean by an unqualified
“We are omnipotent.”
God IS, ‘WE’ are not. If you meant that to be God talking, you need to be clearer in your statement
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elbook,
I pointed out correctly that Christ performed miracles all the time, since He is God.
Speaking with Lazarus was either a miracle or a parable.
We, on the other hand, are not God. We do not communicate with Lazarus.
No where in Scripture are Christians taught, commanded, nor shown examples of praying to anyone but God Himself.
Pagans are shown praying to other gods entities.
Best.
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