Posted on 07/07/2020 4:17:30 PM PDT by ebb tide
SSPX is weird. Keep in mind they reject Vatican II, they reject the very important Nostra Aetate, and they are anti-semetic. Many SSPX laity are nice people seeking orthodoxy, they don’t realize the organization is extremist ritualists.
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Anymore questions, skipper?
But while our obligation to attend Mass on Sunday is a grave one, failure to attend Mass on Sunday is not an intrinsic evil; it is within the authority of a bishop (or even a priest) to dispense with this obligation.
If the bishop orders the churches closed in response to a pandemic, then the churches should be closed. (Disregard, for a moment, the current situation where the Costco across the street is open but the church remains closed.)
The solution to the bishop's closure of the church is not to attend Mass at a church where the priests offer the Mass in disobedience to the Pope's wishes; it's to petition for the churches to be opened (either to Heaven or to Ceasar).
And this is the crux of the problem with the SSPX; they sit on the sidelines while the rest of us in the church are doing the heavy lifting. They really believe that they can shelter in place in a renegade chapel while they wag their fingers at those of us who are working and praying hard for a return to normalcy in our spiritual lives.
Because once you shelter in place in the SSPX chapel, what incentive do you have to push for the re-opening of those churches who aren't operating in disobedience to Holy Mother Church?
Many Catholics who do not associate with the SSPX at all also reject Nostra Aetate.
I’m disappointed to see that you appear to worship the same “god” that blood-thirsty muslims do.
In some thirty years there's an "SSPX of the Strict Observance" and an SSPV (for those of whom the previous group isn't "hard-core" enough).
Because once you break away from Rome, you've thrown away any argument that another group can't break away from you.
Show me something where a Pope issued something in writing that states, "Bishop Lefebvre should not have been excommunicated."
(I'm not much of an emotional thinker; I need to see facts.)
Well then, it should also be within the authority of a bishop to dispense one from the obligation to obey the Sixth Commandment, which the Bishop of Rome has recently done for the universal church.
Do you also worship the “god” of the muslims?
The facts are presented in the topic article. It's a shame you have chosen to ignore them.
"Heaving lifting"!
ROTFLOL.. Sitting at home on your couches with your TV masses, which one is not even obliged to watch.
What a joke.
While it may make those seeking shelter in the Safe Space of Pius X feel more pious for heading off to that church, most Catholics are well aware that ours is not a faith of emotion, but of reason.
That same pope would resign his office four years later, while still under intense pressure.
Here's another example: Pope Benedict issued Summorum Pontificum on July 7, 2007 (whose 13th anniversary occurs this very day). Yet again, under intense pressure from liberal catholics and the Jews, changed the Good Friday prayer for the Jews on February 5, 2008, almost seven months later.
I hope there aren't many soldiers in our military who think like you do.
Pathetic.
I'll declare check-mate and call it a night.
Ah, there we go again with that modernist key word "reason". It's used for birth control; it's used for abortion; it's used for the seamless garment, it's used for divorce and remarriage; it's used for cohabitation; and now it's used for skipping Mass.
Thanks for letting me know where you stand, Captain.
It wasn’t “good enough” for them. That’s all.
There’s a real threat of an American schism.
Each diocese already runs it’s own independent program. It’s the conciliar way.
At least here on the east coast, there’s a genuine hostility toward the gospel ... in the parishes. At least when the gospel motivates people to support right-to-life or oppose LGBT culture. No, they aren’t openly apostate. Just unofficially & 80% apostate. It’s the conciliar way.
SSPX does attract people who are borderline fundamentalist. Probably no big surprise.
Are you channeling the Francis?
Francis criticizes traditionalist Catholics who 'safeguard the ashes' of the past
Aboard the papal flight from Romania — Pope Francis has criticized traditionalist Catholics who seek to "safeguard the ashes" of the past, saying the global church's centuries of tradition are not akin to a container for preserved objects but instead like roots to be drawn on for future growth.
In a press conference aboard the papal flight back to Rome after his three-day visit to Romania, he singled out Catholic "fundamentalists," who he said have a nostalgia for "returning to the ashes."
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