Posted on 02/29/2024 3:19:21 PM PST by ebb tide
You read that post and still don’t even understand it. You’ve been throwing insults against your own misinterpretation, not my ideas. I haven’t seen you provide a darn thing to dispute the idea that Masons are evil either, just mediocre snobbery.
“Blah blah - talk about projection. If you and the other guy represent Freemasons, then they probably are up to no good.”
Do you realize that the comment that you are criticizing so hard, you specifically asked for? You don’t, do you? Remember your comment:
” Explain to me, if it’s not too difficult for you, how a reasonable person misinterprets this due to “phrasing”:”
I explained it to you, in pretty good detail. And then, in true FR fashion, you went off on something else instead of staying on the topic. Again, do you think, if I say to you, “I don’t know if your an idiot or not”, and then use a totally bad example of why I asked the question, that may get you a little perturbed?
TL; DR. You can throw out another personal insult if you want and then call it quits.
Um that piece of art is just quoting of Matthew 2:2. It’s literally about Jesus.
“We learned that Freemasonry involves cursing your future generations (as seen in your example of your mom’s beating by your grandpa - but that is physical abuse). Speaking and declaring curses upon your future generation is in many ways much worse and far-reaching....
Each higher level gets more weird and darker. Turns out that at or near the highest level, the name of the leader of Freemasons is unveiled. His name is “Lucifer” (AKA Satan AKA the devil)...
Free Mason curses go something like this: During the process of promotion in Freemasonry, they have to make a vow that that will never reveal anything that goes on in Freemasonry and then they themselves declare that if they do, they declare certain curses upon their own future generations. Diabolical or what?”
Source for that? I know you don’t have one because it’s all lies. Also, the highest degree is the Third Degree. Also Lucifer isn’t a name for Satan anyway (but that’s for another time).
Source for that?
Yes, I learned these things during Pastor Jack Hayford’s Cleaning Stream seminars a few years ago. The late Jack Hayford was a highly respected pastor and considered a leader in the Body of Christ in America and around the world.
Here are a few references.
https://www.cleansingstream.org/blog/2015/9/2/deliverance-ministry-environment
https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Cleansing-Stream-Life-Changing-Deliverance/dp/B0892HRSRF
Don’t know where in these you can find references to Freemasonry, but I’m sure if you really want to know, you’ll find it.
BTW, as far as Satan’s original name being Lucifer,
“How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how are you cut down to the ground, which did weaken the nations!” Isaiah 14:12.
Cross refence with
“And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, and cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more...” Revelation 20:2-3.
Mmmm k
and the trinity thing?
part and parcel
I mean an original source. Because Pastor Hayford has no idea what he’s talking about.
Re: “Lucifer” - first, Lucifer is a Latin abbreviation for “Lucem farre” - “light bringer.” How did it appear in the Hebrew Old Testament then? It didn’t. At least anywhere outside the King James, which translated not from the Hebrew, but the Latin Vulgate, and left that idiom in there when it didn’t belong.
Lucifer, along with Noctifer (”night bringer”) are the Latin nicknames for the planet Venus, with the same meanings as our English nicknames “morning star” and “evening star.”
Additionally, that section is not about Satan, it literally says right in it that it is a taunt against an evil Babylonian king, not Satan. Please read the entire chapter, not just verse 12.
“Mmmm k
and the trinity thing?
part and parcel”
Huh?
The Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth through God’s Word, the Bible. Let Him.
People don’t keep secrets when everything is on the up and up.
I wholeheartedly agree!!!
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