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SUPREME COURT UPHOLDS OREGON'S SUICIDE LAW
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Posted on 01/17/2006 7:07:26 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

BREAKING ON THE AP WIRE:

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court has upheld Oregon's one-of-a-kind physician-assisted suicide law, rejecting a Bush administration attempt to punish doctors who help terminally ill patients die.


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To: jb6; TexasGreg

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121 posted on 01/17/2006 7:52:50 AM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc

the next step will be to force all doctors to do this or risk loosing their jobs or licenses, which they are already doing to doctors who refuse to give out prescriptions for abortion (morning after) pills.


122 posted on 01/17/2006 7:53:02 AM PST by conservative physics
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To: SoFloFreeper

"The authority desired by the government is inconsistent with the design of the statute in other fundamental respects. The attorney general does not have the sole delegated authority under the (law)," Kennedy wrote for himself, retiring Justice
Sandra Day O'Connor and Justices
John Paul Stevens,
David Souter, and
Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and
Stephen Breyer.

Roberts and Justices
Clarence Thomas and
Antonin Scalia dissented.

Scalia, writing the dissent, said that federal officials have the power to regulate the doling out of medicine.

"If the term `legitimate medical purpose' has any meaning, it surely excludes the prescription of drugs to produce death," he wrote.

The ruling backed a decision by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which said Ashcroft's "unilateral attempt to regulate general medical practices historically entrusted to state lawmakers interferes with the democratic debate about physician-assisted suicide."


123 posted on 01/17/2006 7:53:05 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Now, how does this make any sense?

So a Dr. can prescibe death for a patient, but not medical marijuana? How does that make ANY sense at all?


124 posted on 01/17/2006 7:53:23 AM PST by pnome
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To: pnome

It doesn't. They both should be decided by the state, and its voters.


125 posted on 01/17/2006 7:53:53 AM PST by eyespysomething (Let's agree to respect each other's views, no matter how wrong yours might be.)
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To: floridaobserver
Whatever happened to States Rights?

btw welcome
126 posted on 01/17/2006 7:55:02 AM PST by firewalk
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To: Mr. Brightside
I wonder if the same rationale will be used in abortion cases.

You may have it pegged. This may be setting up a repeal of Roe.

127 posted on 01/17/2006 7:55:11 AM PST by PAR35
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To: kstewskis

Yes, somehow leftists can't even kill themselves on their own, without government.


128 posted on 01/17/2006 7:55:32 AM PST by roses of sharon ("I would rather men ask why I have no statue, than why I have one". ) (Cato the Elder)
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To: alwaysconservative; All

The whole point is not state rights, dispensing death should not be a medical procedure if someone who is ill wants to die they can pick up a .45, get some pills, ect. There is no reason for a "MD" who swore an oath to protect life to kill people (but they seem to do it all the time)


129 posted on 01/17/2006 7:55:57 AM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: floridaobserver
I agree. There's a real schism between people who are driven by real Conservative ideals and people who use conservatism to further their own agenda. It is not for one centralized federal government to decide how people in each state choose to live their lives. Just as it's wrong for the feds to force states to legalize abortion it's wrong for the feds to decide laws dealing with suicide. It simply isn't in the Constitution. I'll be interested to read the dissent.
130 posted on 01/17/2006 7:56:21 AM PST by oldleft
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To: Wolfie
So a doctor can help a patient die with lethal drugs, but can't help a patient live with medical marijuana. Go figure.

Profound. Thank you.

131 posted on 01/17/2006 7:56:41 AM PST by Neenah
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To: William Terrell
And doctors are afraid to proscribe pain killers that actually kill pain,

As well you would agree they should. Hint: Look up "proscribe"

132 posted on 01/17/2006 7:56:45 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: SandyInSeattle
So the government can be neutral on the issue of life, according to your reading of the Constitution? Even with abortion they only reasoned that the child can be killed because he/she is not a person yet (stupid reasoning, but it's not this). After that was out of the way, they decided it was an issue of freedom for the mother. But first they had to make the child a non-person. This is a new frontier.

I sympathize with the states rights argument, but states can't do certain things. Taking a life really should be one of them. I further sympathize with the issues of pain and slow death, but the dangers the other direction are just way too great.

Now the difference between murder and legal "suicide" is nothing more than a legal document -- AND THE MOST IMPORTANT WITNESS IS DEAD!

133 posted on 01/17/2006 7:57:37 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Brytani
Careful. It sounds like you are thinking for yourself.

You see, there are some "conservatives" here who think that not only should people go to prison for easing end-of-life misery, but that the people of a given state should not be able to keep people out of prison who provide such aid, even under strict rules.

The "conservative bloc" on the court disappoints when it is too "police state government" oriented (drunk driving roadblocks, etc.)
134 posted on 01/17/2006 7:57:38 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Excellent ruling. This is a state issue. Let the states decide if they want physician-assisted suicide or legalized abortion. Those who don't like the law can fight for change via the state legislature. Get the feds out of these issues.


135 posted on 01/17/2006 7:57:58 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: Iconoclast2

What the Supreme Court has just ruled is that the Federal government's authority is limited, just as our Christian Founding Fathers intended. The problem lies with the State of Oregon, not the United States, which has no business telling doctors what to do. Where in the Constitution do you see the "regulate doctors" clause?

Agree 100%. If the shoe was on the other foot, you'd hear hundreds of FRino's screaming about judicial activism.

Just because we may not agree with any particular law, that does not make it the Federal Government's business.

And THAT IS WHY Roe V. Wade should have failed, not on a privacy basis, and not on a cooperative federalism 14th amendment type basis either.


136 posted on 01/17/2006 7:57:59 AM PST by djf (Bush wants to make Iraq like America. Solution: Send all illegal immigrants to Iraq!)
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To: steelcurtain

then I guess you would be in total support of a state deciding to execute people based solely on race ... as long as two judges sign off on the idea?


137 posted on 01/17/2006 7:58:20 AM PST by conservative physics
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To: EternalVigilance

Suicide isn't really a right to life issue. An individual does have the right to life, but that is his right. He owns it. If someone is committing suicide, no one is infringing on his right.


138 posted on 01/17/2006 7:58:39 AM PST by TKDietz
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To: conservative physics
I think people are getting confused. This law is not about withdrawal of care; it's about people who want to kill themselves being able to get a prescription from a doctor for lethal drugs.

It's an awful law, and physicians should have no part in helping someone to kill themselves.

That said, I do not see where in the Constitution the federal government derives authority to overturn this law. I suspect, though, that this was an outcome-based decision on both sides. The Supreme Court is pretty much a political body these days...kind of a Super-Senate. I'll have to read the decision and dissent to see for sure.

The proper thing to do is to get the voters to undo this mess. They're the ones who voted it in. Personally, I voted against it, as it was and is an awful idea.

139 posted on 01/17/2006 7:58:48 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: vrwc0915

Unless of course bone cancer has rendered your entire bodies frail and made it impossible to leave the bed, not to mention rendered all movement excruciatingly painful. I don't think you can just order a handgun on Amazon.com (with your shattered wrists) and have on delivered to your sickbed.


140 posted on 01/17/2006 7:59:10 AM PST by Sols
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