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Hagel expects an OK on immigration bill
Omaha World Herald. ^ | November 10, 2006

Posted on 11/10/2006 4:23:47 PM PST by jamesrichards

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To: Ole Okie

Hagel is (ostensibly) a senator. Osborne was a congressman. A do-nothing, in-over-his-head congressman at that. He had no more business representing Nebraska in Congress than he did coaching water polo.


101 posted on 11/11/2006 6:53:14 AM PST by IronJack
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To: hinckley buzzard
So what else should he have done, support Bush's waffling?

You call Bush's pro illegal position waffling? Hardly. He is clearly pro-illegals.

Bush keeps the doors to our country wide open while he closes and locks his own front door.

102 posted on 11/11/2006 6:59:37 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Uncle Vlad
"As a native Nebraskan, I would like to apologize to the entire civilized world for Chuck Hagel. I hope we can finally drive this POS from the Senate in 2008."

I certainly hope so and I will be helping to campaign against him in the Grand Island area. I also told him this in an email I sent to him when he was trying to tell Israel that they shouldn't defend themselves. Funny, but I never got even an automated response from his office.

103 posted on 11/11/2006 7:16:18 AM PST by Pablo64 ("Everything I say is fully substantiated by my own opinion.")
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To: onyx

You may think that his ACU rating is all that matters in defining a RINO, but no true conservative (at least in my book) sells out Israel to the Islamofascists. Hagel was all over the place telling Israel that they were the ones who needed to back down after they were attacked by the pagan moon god worshipping followers of the pedophile non-prophet.


104 posted on 11/11/2006 7:21:53 AM PST by Pablo64 ("Everything I say is fully substantiated by my own opinion.")
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To: Tzimisce
Thanks for voting Democrat. :)

Nice try pal, but there is still the problem of our open borders President.

105 posted on 11/11/2006 7:35:55 AM PST by montag813
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To: All

Hagel - Another fine example of a RINO.


106 posted on 11/11/2006 11:50:54 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

Nebraska just reelected their Democrat Senator, Ben Nelson by 28 points over the Republican. Nelson has a mixed record on immigration but he is probably the most conservative Democrat in the Senate. He was endorsed by the NRA and is also pro-life.


107 posted on 11/11/2006 12:12:28 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamesrichards
The dems know by passing this it will demoralize the gop base for 08.

Who needs to demoralize the GOP?
When it is going to simply become impotent and irrelevant?
The GOP will become a perpetual minority party thanks to the
new (effectively) irreversible changes wrought by the last election.
E.g., Amnesty that will create a tsunami of new Democratic voters
out of ILLEGAL invaders.

(PS: nothing would make me happier than eating crow if this does
not come to pass)
108 posted on 11/11/2006 12:25:39 PM PST by VOA
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To: livius
Making it a federal issue made it impossible to solve, made the GOP look bad, and distracted voters from the real issues.

Oh, good greif. Immigration IS a FEDERAL issue...you know, protect the borders....

The GOP made itself look bad, they didn't need any help. The dems pounded "culture of corruption" over and over. Their voters bought it, with good reason....Cunningham, Safavian, Ney, Delay, Haggard, foley, Abramoff and on and on.

They sound just like the perpetually in denial democrats.

109 posted on 11/11/2006 12:31:08 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: jamesrichards
Heather Wilson looks like she might have won even though she is good on immigration in a 30 percent hispanic district.

No, Wilson is NOT good on immigration, unless you like the status quo. All I've seen from you in the past 2 days is totally wrong information. Is that by accident?

http://profiles.numbersusa.com/improfile.php3?DistSend=NM&VIPID=550

OVERALL GRADES Career Recent Rep. Wilson has earned an overall career immigration voting grade of D-

Voted against bill to increase interior enforcement in 2006

Voted against amendment to end special amnesty for certain Central Americans in 2006

Voted against amendment to fund employment eligibility verification system in 2006

ted on floor of the House against final passage of border security and enforcement bill in 2005 Rep. Wilson voted againstH.R. 4437, the Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act of 2005. H.R. 4437

Voted on House floor against amendment to increase security with border fence in 2005

Voted in favor of sanctuary policies for illegal aliens in 2005

Voted against amendment to increase interior enforcement in 2005

More at link.... Rep. Wilson has earned a recent immigration voting grade of D 2005 - 2006M

110 posted on 11/11/2006 12:42:39 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: rottndog
McConnel crack the whip to keep them in line on immigration? Not gonna happen. And don't forget, he's married to labor sect. Chao, who loves insourcing, outsourcing, and any bogus "trade" aka "cheap labor" item that comes along.

McConnel has a C- rating on immigration.

http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgrades.php3?District=KY&VIPID=328

Voted in favor of motion to invoke cloture on S. 2611 to increase overall immigration numbers and reward illegal aliens with amnesty in 2006

Voted for huge increase in 1990

Voted against amendment to limit proposed guestworker program in 2006

Voted in favor of amendment to create additional guestworker visa categories in 2006

Voted for a foreign worker bill with no anti-fraud measures in 2000.

Voted to allow firms to lay off Americans to make room for foreign workers in 1998

Voted against amendment to extend border fence in 2006

Voted against amendment to provide funding for additional Border Patrol and ICE agents in 2005

Cosponsored bill to create an amnesty for illegal agricultural workers in 2003-2004

Tried to kill voluntary pilot programs for workplace verification in 1996 Sen. McConnell voted IN FAVOR of the Abraham Amendment to S.1664. He was part of a coalition of pro-business conservatives and liberal civil libertarians who tried to use the amendment to kill the establishment of voluntary pilot programs in high-immigration states.

111 posted on 11/11/2006 12:51:29 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement
Well that kind of spoils my opinion of McConnel on immigration.

Hopefully the election results coupled with him being the one in charge catching all the grief will change things.

I am much less confident now.
112 posted on 11/11/2006 1:00:29 PM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: Pablo64
Of course you didn't get a response from Hagel's office. You should have written it in Spanish. THEN you would have gotten a response.
113 posted on 11/11/2006 1:03:30 PM PST by Uncle Vlad (You cannot protect the peoples' civil liberties if you refuse to protect the people.)
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To: La Enchiladita
Oh darn, I forgot to add Santorum. That makes 4 border security Senators that we lost.

THIS is the problem...Santorum is NOT a "border security" senator. At the end, he tried to turn around, but it was too late. Voters belive the soundbites instead of the voting records.

http://profiles.numbersusa.com/improfile.php3?DistSend=PA&VIPID=683

Voted in favor of chain migration in 1996

Voted in favor of amendment to create additional guestworker visa categories in 2006

Voted in favor of amendment to increase foreign-worker importation in 2005

Cosponsoring legislation to increase H-2B workers who are present in the U.S. at any one time in 2005-2006

Voted for a foreign worker bill with no anti-fraud measures in 2000.

Voted to allow firms to lay off Americans to make room for foreign workers in 1998

Voted against amendment to fund additional immigration investigators in 2006

Voted against amendment to provide funding for additional Border Patrol agents in 2005

Tried to kill voluntary pilot programs for workplace verification in 1996 [snips]

114 posted on 11/11/2006 1:12:01 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Sweetie, Santorum voted NO on S2611. That was (and is) the most amnesty-laden bill since the last amnesty 20 years ago... both times with Ted Kennedy as co-author.

See, I have to tell you... hard-liners like you and JustPiper and the NumbersUSA crowd are too interested in trouncing legislators wholesale based on these "report cards" without paying attention to any good deeds that a representative might do.

The S2611 vote was the most important, most recent development and the litmus test for who is FOR and who is AGAINST amnesty.

By the way, did you vote in the midterm election and how did you vote?

Because I suspect that many of the NumbersUSA hardliners did not vote at all...


115 posted on 11/11/2006 1:39:45 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God bless America, Land that I LOVE...)
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To: rottndog

The immigration "report cards" are bunk created by permanent malcontents to up their own organization's donations.

But.... that's just MHO.

Doing one's own research and analysis might yield different results.


116 posted on 11/11/2006 1:45:22 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God bless America, Land that I LOVE...)
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To: trek

"Thanks Michael Savage. Thanks Pat Buchanan."

Thanks Bushbots. It's Bush who is for this crap, even with a lost election amnesty would go nowhere without Jorge.


117 posted on 11/11/2006 1:47:30 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: Pablo64

Good point, Pablo. I don't put stock in such ratings.

Mark Twain said, "There are lies and then there are lies and then there are damn statistics."


118 posted on 11/11/2006 1:47:38 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God bless America, Land that I LOVE...)
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To: La Enchiladita

Exactly. Hagel is slick enough to know which key issues will keep him labled as a "conservative" but if you really pay attention to him you see the true politician come through. Our dem senator Ben Nelson votes on the side of some fairly conservative issues, but I wouldn't go so far as to call him a Reagan democrat (although sometimes he seems more conservative than Hagel!).


119 posted on 11/11/2006 3:27:01 PM PST by Pablo64 (Ask me about my alpacas!)
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To: FastCoyote
"Thanks Bushbots. It's Bush who is for this crap..."

Yes, but Bush was not on the ballot genius! It was the Republicans in the house who were on the ballot. And they were the last bulwark against the amnesty. So by what logic do you express your anger with by Bush by voting out the only folks in power who agreed with you?

120 posted on 11/11/2006 3:36:43 PM PST by trek
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