Posted on 05/07/2008 10:22:37 AM PDT by Bokababe
Perhaps some insiders (or those unwillingly part) of the Clintonistas’ administration realized that what we (the USA) were doing was just not right - and so the award/medal could not be called/designated in more accurate terms as the “Re-establishment of the Islamic Caliphate” Medal… So better to have sent in the Girl Scouts - as things would have ended up basically the same as they have, except perhaps with less loss of innocent life. Anyway, it’s is also off of my uniform forever.
My only desire is that in some very small way it may help people to become aware - especially Serbians - that not all Americans are clueless - and that more can/must be done to alert the (civilized/free world) to this horrible situation…Also, I am very very displeased with what the Bush administration has done regarding the issue of Kosovo - as well as with Israel, etc. In fact this part (why the Bush admin is playing along with the islamists) I can not figure out.
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Anti-Serb pro-Jihadist posters are like cockroaches, even the nicest forums have some.
You haven't looked deep enough.
"... by Totten, who is a very credible source"
Credible to whom?
You are comparing that which cannot be compared. Kosovo is populated by MUSLIM Albanians who will never accept living in a nation run by a majority of Christians whether serb or otherwise. Muslims invade infiltrate and take over —that is their modus operandi and their mission..history proves it and if that is not enough so does their little green book. The neo con formula of democratization through expansion of corporate capitalism does not apply to these creatures.
Just as with other utopian ideologies the Mohamedans are expansionist and once they infiltrate they take over. That is the nature of the ideology is Mohamed. As for Muslims living here or other non muslim nations they get preached to by imamis funded by SA who tell them that they live under the infidel and they will prevail thusly——There are 3 main ways in which a state or country can become Daar ul-Islam (the domain of Islam):
The majority of its citizens embrace Islam and implement the Sharia’ah on their own accord
A group of Muslims rise, overthrow the government and implement the Sharia’ah by force (coup)
Islamic states carry out Jihad as foreign policy and remove the government
If that takes too much time they can resort to this strategy - acc. to the “Mao” of the muslim world:
“Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males ... to prepare themselves for the conquest of countries...so that Islam is obeyed everywhere in the world.”
So one by one the dominoes fall and Kosovo has become another beachhead into the west. Get real and stop deluding yourself with nonsense. Serbs, Bulgarians, Greeks Assryians, Armenians and others have paid and are still paying dearly for their persistance in keeping their faith alive...those like you are an insult to that faith and persistence.
“Once they infiltrate they take over”
Er, this is neither universal not inevitable.
Take my old country, the Philippines. For nearly 200 years the “infiltration” and “taking over” has been by Roman Catholic pioneers and settlers occupying formerly Muslim lands - or lands claimed but not occupied by Muslims. This is still happening, in spite of Muslim terrorism and episodes of open warfare. The Muslims there, whatever the noise they make, have been and still are living in an ever more Christian environment.
I’m no fan of Islam, but talk about reducing things to an absurd simplicity. If we take your position literally we should be running out into the street and murdering all the Moslems we see. Thats the trouble with hysteria like yours - you can’t go from there to an actual policy, its just hot air.
I mean what I say about tribalism, as in nationalism founded on ethnic kinship. Lots of countries are basically ethnicities with armies. The US (and other modern immigrant countries like Canada) are very different things.
Anti-Serb ? Yes, in their present state.
Serbia is about to vote in a government that will try to preserve and restore the Communist state and ally itself with Russian imperialists. To say that they are the odd men out in the post-Cold War Eastern Europe would be to put it mildly.
Pro-jihadist ? No. But the US and the decent parts of the world have enemies other than jidahists. The Serbs seem to want to join them.
“Serbia needs to go back in and take these monkeys out. “
Hmm - people are “monkeys” now ?
No, wait, in your analysis Albanians aren’t people, thats the problem here.
Correction - It looks like the Serbian elections unexpectedly brought in a sane government. Maybe Serbia has something going for it after all.
Once AND IF you undertand that Mohamedanism trounces and supplants ethnicity you may figure it out...but you seem to be living in a bubhle and have no idea what is going on out there in the world or EVEN IN YOUR OWN country—philippines.
The moro muslims terrorsits are not giving up...bombs continue to explode.
Heads will continue to turn up.
Russian imperialists? the nation that has endured more attacks and invasions than eny other country?
You must be smoking some kind of Manila hash...you simply spout propaqanda here...not very becoming or accepted here on FR. Advice: Deal with the facts or just slink away —no more BS please
“The moro muslims terrorsits are not giving up...bombs continue to explode.”
Yes, but Visayan Catholic peasants continue to settle in Mindanao, long since vastly outnumbering the Muslims. Towns and villages that were once all-Muslim are now mixed or majority Christian. You will now find Christian majorities in towns even in Jolo and Basilan.
It can be done, all one needs is a vigorous and fertile Christian population. It is no accident that the Philippines is the most devoutly Catholic country on Earth.
“Russian imperialists? the nation that has endured more attacks and invasions than eny other country?”
Ask the Poles about that. They want US bases - just in case. Are they smoking Manila hash, or maybe some Krakow Gold ?
Serbia isn't Poland. Get out a map. Better yet, here: 
Sweden is much closer to Russia than Serbia(6) is
You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about -- but you just keep talking and talking and talking. PS This map has Serbia & Montenegro still together, but no matter, neither has changed its location.
There were no Greek nor Serb members of Waffen SS. Your attempt to water down Albanian Nazi past is sickening because they are unrepentant Nazis.
Thank you for admitting your racist approach to condemning an entire people, damning the Christian victims merely because some Communists might lurk within their number.
Of course, your posts had already made your viewpoint quite clear.
I see you are attempting to accuse others of the sort of dehumanization that you've applied to the Serbian people. This is what psychologists call "projecting" although it is usually the sort of intellectual dishonesty that we see from the anti-Christian posters on Balkans threads.
The Polish hint didn’t suffice ?
Then have a look at your map, and consider that Polish attitudes are the same as pretty much every other nation from Georgia to Finland in the old Waraw-pact area, save for Belorussia (still a Miloslevic-style dictatorship) - and I’m not sure that even they aren’t secretly on-board.
Almost all want to join NATO and want US bases. Interesting, why do you suppose ?
Maybe they know things that you don’t ?
Hmm - one can’t oppose someones political opinions without being racist ?
Then we are all racist (me too) I suppose for disliking Islam.
My point is that people are still people regardless of their beliefs, and they deserve consideration as such. Ideas like tossing millions of Kosovo Albanians out of their homes, even granting the truth of our objections to their beliefs and culture - these plans are fundamentally evil.
So how do you deal with people like the Albanians ? Well, as Christian principles teach us, this life is not meant to be easy, and the Christian path is perhaps the hardest. “Do unto others” is a hard thing, but so it must be.
Islam is neither a race nor an ethnic group, hence it is not racist to dislike the fact that they are terrorists.
Ideas like tossing millions of Kosovo Albanians out of their homes...
We're talking about returning the Albanian illegal immigrants to their homes and giving their stolen properties back to their rightful Serb, Roma, and Jewish owners.
Any other action is to aid and abet their crimes after the fact.
“Your attempt to water down Albanian Nazi past is sickening because they are unrepentant Nazis.”
Europe is full of “unrepentant Nazis”. Somehow “unrepentant Nazis” and their victims seem to have gotten over their problems in the sixty years after WWII.
WWII is long over. A parable -
WWII happened in Manila, my hometown, as well. There the Japanese garrison, after starving the population, imprisoning and torturing most of the Filipino leadership, etc., finally decided to exterminate the whole city (1 million people) when the Americans approached. Like most residents, every one of my relatives (of those who survived) was a witness of atrocities very few today would believe. In that city, in two weeks, 100,000 were killed. All the survivors owe their survival to the sacrifice of the US Army, which rescued most of them at a cost of 1000 dead. Similar things happened all over the country. In the end, from massacre and starvation one in 20 Filipinos died as a result of the war. That may be almost as bad as Serbia/Yugoslavia.
Thirty years after the war, a Japanese student wandering through the streets of Manila entered our garden and fell into conversation with my Grandmother. They had a nice chat for a couple of hours, after which my grandmother stated that she had now forgiven the Japanese. And so, in fact, has the entire country. To forgive is not to forget.
“Albanian illegal immigrants” ?
Didn’t one of your friends on this thread say that these people were the majority in Kosovo since the sixteenth century ? (As a result of “ethnic cleansing”).
People are still “illegal” after 400 years ?
They certainly were the majority throughout the twentieth century.
This does not give them a nationalist claim on Kosovo ?
In my book it certainly does, even if some portion of them came in from Albania proper in more recent times. I think that if you somehow (through whatever murderous process you advocate) send all the more recent “illegals” back across the border, you would still have an Albanian majority, and therefore no Kosovo.
Forget Kosovo. The Poles have forgotten Wilno/Vilna/Vilnius. Germans have forgotten Breslau, Danzig and Konigsberg.
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