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PS I have read the book "Bones of Contention" by Marvin L. Lubenow, listed at the bottom of the article. It is truly an excellent book, and I heartily recommend it for anyone who is interested in the subjective mess the evos have made out of their human evolution fairytale.
1 posted on 10/04/2009 8:11:34 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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2 posted on 10/04/2009 8:15:05 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

More Spam.
This is the third thread you have started about the same subject in the last three days.


3 posted on 10/04/2009 8:16:26 AM PDT by Wacka
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How dare you right wing nuts insult dear Ardi. Evolution today, evolution tomorrow, evolution forever. And—here’s a bonus—she’s better looking than the Vermont congressional delegation, and will get better results if elected.


7 posted on 10/04/2009 8:57:27 AM PDT by Combat_Liberalism
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[[Most readers of the headlines would be unaware of the way in which the fossil bits and pieces were scattered over a distance greater than 1½ kilometres!]]

So let’s see- they find fragments scattered over almost a mile, plop them altogether, and create a skull out of pieces, and htis is the ‘closest relative’ we have? A walk i n the woods in a 1 mile radius would find many fragments of bones from many species- and one could collext the fragments and cobble together anythign they wish

They are talking about ‘Ardi’ as though it was a bunch of fragments all foundi n one spot, as though all the pieces belong to hte same ‘individual’ but how the heck can they know it was from one individual? Cripes- in a one mile radius, it’s VERY likely that all those fragments came from different ‘individuals’ and even from different time periods.

“In summary, the results of this objective statistical study suggest that the AME-VP-1/71 bone had scant similarity to human bone, was dissimilar to baboon bone and was most dissimilar to chimpanzee bone. The baboon bone was similar to the chimpanzee and dissimilar to human bone. The chimpanzee was most dissimilar to humans. Human bone had no similarity to monkey or ape bone. Therefore, these objective ancestry analyses for fossil bones suggest that the conclusion of Haile-Selassie and Robinson, that Ardipithecus ramidus kadabba was an ancestor of apes and humans that walked on two legs, is farfetched speculation.”

‘Far fetched speculation’? Cripes! I’ll say! Take a bunch of skull fragments from many individual pigs of different size, shape etc that are scattered over a one mile radius, assemble them in a hodge podge manner, and you’re goign to have soemthign compeltely different from what actualy existed- that’s essentially what they did here- there is NO WAY they could know these fragments all came form one individual, yet they throw the gragments all together and declare they’ve ‘found an individual specimen’ ‘Far Fetched’? Try pure fantasy!


10 posted on 10/04/2009 9:02:05 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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“Though an enormous amount of work has now gone into piecing together and analyzing the find, most readers of the headlines would be unaware of the way in which the fossil bits and pieces were scattered over a distance greater than 1½ kilometres! See Dr Don Batten’s 1994 report in Journal of Creation, Australopithecus ramidus—‘the missing link’?”

—“Ardi” was not spread over 1.5 km; the remains of numerous separate Ar. ramidus finds are spread over an area of 1.5 km. (The AiG article posted previously made the same mistake of confusing the 36 or so other Ar. ramidus finds with ‘Ardi’. I wonder if this is the beginning of another urban legend reminiscent of “Lucy’s knee”.)

“The latest claims made include that Ardipithecus is more dissimilar to both apes and humans than previously thought.”

—No, it’s more similar to humans than previously thought; but indeed more dissimilar to chimps (and other modern apes) than previously thought.

“And CT scans of australopithecine skulls show that the organs of balance (the ‘semi-circular canals”) were positioned in ways quite different from that required for a creature that walks habitually upright.”

—Wow, this claim is still being used? I would have thought that this claim would have died when it was discovered that Neandertal semicircular canals were also very small, and probably more similar to those of Australopithecines than those of modern humans. Strange that I never hear Creationists claim that Neandertals didn’t habitually walk upright.


15 posted on 10/04/2009 10:50:23 AM PDT by goodusername
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