Posted on 12/16/2010 5:45:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
International man of intrigue Julian Assange barely had a moment to catch his breath from the last charges against him, but now is prepared for the US to have their crack at him. Assange tells Sky News “We have heard today from one of my US lawyers that there may be a US indictment for espionage for me coming from a secret grand jury investigation.” The fun never stops with Assange, stay tuned for more details.
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
Hrm... insofar as I know he’s not in the employ of any foreign government; doesn’t that put a crimp, legally speaking, in accusing him of espionage?
Ok, well not too sure about that. If someone fed me secret stuff about France and I posted it here in the US what are they going to do?
And prosecution is NOT the way to go in any case. Best way to deal with this is quietly in the dead of night a few months or even years from now. Piano wire? A car bomb? Ricin from an umbrella needle? Just hire one of those aging, outta work KGB agents and be done with Assange.
Anything that keeps Hillary from running her mouth off, is a good thing.
I believe that was/is a way on his website where you could send them info. Not sure if that would be specific enough for prosecution though.
WikiLeaks deserves our thanks for shining a huge spotlight on all this. But some in the corporate-owned press have dismissed the importance of WikiLeaks (”they’ve released little that’s new!”) or have painted them as simple anarchists (”WikiLeaks just releases everything without any editorial control!”). WikiLeaks exists, in part, because the mainstream media has failed to live up to its responsibility. The corporate owners have decimated newsrooms, making it impossible for good journalists to do their job. There’s no time or money anymore for investigative journalism. Simply put, investors don’t want those stories exposed. They like their secrets kept ... as secrets.
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/why-im-posting-bail-money
How does it feel, Captain,to have the same opinion as Michael Moore?
DG
The case against Manuel Noriega was equally flimsy.
I doubt they’ll ever even charge him, much less request extradition to the US, but if they do, I also very seriously doubt it will ever come to trial.
Proving espionage by Assange will be difficult at best in a jury trial. Calling him some kind of enemy combatant is a stretch (and that’s putting it kindly)....
Haha! It always makes me chuckle the way Shephard says “Assange.”
WRONG.... you are uninformed.
The legal questions that were handled during the Ellsberg/Pentagon papers cases were
(1) about “prior restraint” — i.e., whether the govt could prohibit publication of classified materials beforehand (as compared with prosecutions after the fact).... the SCOTUS said that prior restraint would require a very high standard of imminent harm which (in their lofty judicial opinions) was not met in the “Pentagon Papers” case.... in fact the SCOTUS allowed prosecution of Ellsberg and Russo to proceed under the Espionage Act of 1917.
(2) the govt then botched the legally permissible prosecution of Ellsberg and Russo with illegal activities such as wiretaps, breaking into the office of Ellsberg’s psychiatrist. THAT is what got the Ellsberg case thrown out, govt misconduct.
Certainly the bar is high for prosecutions of “espionage” and the MSM has been given (in my humble opinion) too much latitude and discretion, but there is no legal precedent barring prosecutions of illegal releases of classified materials as espionage.
Anyway, Assange and Wikileaks are not themselves “media” entities by any reasonable standard — the govt would hesitate to prosecute media outlets even after the fact, given the climate of the past 40 years, but Assange may have a steep road to convince anyone that hackers and transmitters of stolen documents should themselves be treated as “press”....
ah put all the attention on wikileaks but ignore the queer private who is the real culprit and did it for his queer agenda.
Yes the media ignore the truth yet again and deflects attention to their masses of sheep because it hurts their don’t ask agenda.
Assange is in cahoots with Odumbo. Eric Holder will do nothing except another dog and pony show. get ready for more dogs and ponies to be shown throughout all of DC. Lets face it the Odumbo Administration is it is emasculated (castrated, weak and effeminate) it is plain and simple, America has a balless wonder leading the country, figuratively and probably literally, with all we know about Odumbo can fit in a thimble.
The exact reason Holder is considering this is because he knows an espionage case is weak.
If the DOJ wanted to take down Assange, they would hit him with money laundering, identity theft, conspiracy to accomplish both of those, and RICO.
And we would hit Bradley Manning with Article 104, 106, and 106a charges (aiding the enemy, spying, and espionage, all punishable by death). This would make that little f@ggot start singing like Lady Gaga, which would give us the evidence we need to take down Assange on conspiracy to commit espionage.
Wikileaks is not the media. They are a broker, a middleman. The have negotiated exclusive access to leaked data, rather than just posting it for anyone to download. There are rumors about them buying and selling leaked data. There may be quid-pro-quo for exclusive access to information in returns for donations to Wikileaks.
Google "john young wikileaks".
I was gonna say: The Death Penalty should absolutely be on the table for this guy. If it can be shown beyond a reasonable doubt that this guys actions cost somebody on our side or somebody (anybody) else their lives because the BAD GUYS read the paper and acted on that intel, this guy should pay with his own life. Because the Jihadis? They'd be "OFFING" their opponents like a slaughterhouse prepping for the 4th of July.
Can’t we just send out Mitch Rapp?
"Announcing a $5 million fund-raising goal by July will kill this effort. It makes WL appear to be a Wall Street scam. This amount could not be needed so soon except for suspect purposes.
"Soros will kick you out of the office with such over-reaching."[Emphasis added]
http://cryptome.org/0003/wikileaks-lash.htm
Soros?
Soros, Obama, and Assange are fellow travelers. Is it any wonder all of this (financial collapse, Obama election, Wikileaks) is happening at the same time?
All puppet strings lead to Soros.
My thought too.
The soldier that ‘stole’ the secrets can be prosecuted for espionage and even treason (possibly). Which he is in a military court.
However, I don’t believe a journalist (and I use the term loosely with Assange) would have 1st Amendments rights under freedom of speech. He received the information from a ‘source’ who is in custody.
We do not have a ‘Alien Sedition Act’ (as was the case in our history) nor would the Patriot Act apply here. The Espionage Act of 1917 might work, however it could possibly end free press in the US as ALL news organizations would now be liable under this Act.
The question is, would the US government start bringing down news organizations (i.e., NY Times comes to mind)? What news would there be then, the White House Press Secretary only.
The other big question is how would we ever get him to the US to prosecute. Extradition is a tool but will whatever nation that he is in (i.e., Britain right now) give him too us? Sweden didn’t do to well with the Brit judge on their turn at bat to hold him. The US failed miserably with Polanski just recently.
Just lots of questions and I think ramifications and results that need to be looked at closely. The service member need to be executed though .. if found guilty. Still waiting on this too.
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