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From the original letter:

As scientists, we are compelled to write to you, our elected representatives, about the current administration’s proposal to legally define gender as a binary condition determined at birth, based on genitalia, and with plans to clarify disputes using “genetic testing”. This proposal is fundamentally inconsistent not only with science, but also with ethical practices, human rights, and basic dignity.

The proposal is in no way “grounded in science” as the administration claims. The relationship between sex chromosomes, genitalia, and gender identity is complex, and not fully understood. There are no genetic tests that can unambiguously determine gender, or even sex. Furthermore, even if such tests existed, it would be unconscionable to use the pretext of science to enact policies that overrule the lived experience of people’s own gender identities.

Bottom line: Even if there are genes that determine sex we should still go by how people feel.

1 posted on 11/01/2018 9:56:43 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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Probably the same scientists declaring for the third time we only have ten more years to address global warming.


30 posted on 11/01/2018 10:29:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 from 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: yesthatjallen

What sort of scientists are these? All sorts of people call themselves scientists these days - psychologists and the like are not scientists, however.


32 posted on 11/01/2018 10:33:36 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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When did women’s studies make the STEM list? Time to decertify some universities, e.g., UC Mexifornia.


33 posted on 11/01/2018 10:33:45 PM PDT by RideForever
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34 posted on 11/01/2018 10:38:19 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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I ran through the list of signatories. Only about 40% are biologists. Half of them are sociologists, chemists, physicists, anthropologists, or some other non-biological related field. About a fifth are PhD candidates and students.

I saw one who is a chemical engineer and another who is a therapist. So yea, they scraped the barrel.


36 posted on 11/01/2018 10:39:29 PM PDT by Bogey78O (So far so good.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Mental stability is on a spectrum. These so-called scientists are not in its center.


37 posted on 11/01/2018 10:43:28 PM PDT by rfp1234 (I have already previewed this composition.)
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And all should have their government grants or employment checked. If government employee, fired.


38 posted on 11/01/2018 10:45:42 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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“Our best available evidence shows that affirmation of gender identity is paramount to the survival, health, and livelihood of transgender and intersex people,”

“I think, therefore I am” has now become “I think I am a man, therefore I am a man.”

Most transgenders today are girls wanting to be men. Ages 16 to 24. An increase of 4,500% in the last ten years. Some liken it to anorexia in it’s social contagion aspect (spread through the media, internet and peers).

It is probably rooted in the mind the same way that anorexia is. There are numerous places that will treat both the mind and body of the anorexic.

Hard to find a therapist that doesn’t just want to put the transgender leaning kid on hormones and then surgery. It is a mind problem - not a body problem.

And it really is - “I think I’m a man” and the clinic will tell them “Oh - you think you are a man? Okay, well then you need to get on hormones, and then after that you can do surgery.”

In one report, something like 240 people that “detransitioned” were interviewed. Something like 60 of them said they were never questioned or given therapy of any kind. Just got the prescription for hormones on the first visit!

It is nuts. The are destroying our kids. (40% of transgenders try to kill themselves after the transition. Some of their stories are so tragic. “I thought it would make me who I really was. Now I realize that I am nothing.”)

And it destroys the families. Which is probably the goal in the first place.


39 posted on 11/01/2018 10:48:20 PM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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Keep that list of names. It might come in useful someday to know who they are.


40 posted on 11/01/2018 10:56:06 PM PDT by sipow
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The Hill is reporting on an article by buzzfeed.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/azeenghorayshi/scientists-vs-gender-binary

X & Y chromosomes are not settled science, but Climate change is ?

just shoot me.


41 posted on 11/01/2018 10:58:57 PM PDT by stylin19a ( Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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Send a note back

To the 1600 Super Smart Scientists too damn stupid to figure out the difference between a males and females.

If it has a penis, it’s male
If it has a vagina it’s female
If it has both penis and vagina, it can flip a coin and cut one off.
If it has a penis but thinks it’s a female, it has a mental issue, and vice Versa for a female thinking it’s a man. They need mental help.

You are now on a list of scientists the American taxpayers will no longer support with any financing. We only want the best, and you have proven you are not it....or even remotely close to being it since you still can’t tell the difference.

Signed

President Trump - Real Man!


42 posted on 11/01/2018 11:01:30 PM PDT by Bommer (Help 2ndDivisionVet - https://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=category&term=married-recent-amputee)
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To: yesthatjallen

These ‘scientists’ are not very scientific.


44 posted on 11/01/2018 11:11:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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Scientists against science.


46 posted on 11/01/2018 11:16:01 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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“””Scientists”””


49 posted on 11/01/2018 11:49:26 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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If it's a consensus we're in for it. 😂💩
51 posted on 11/02/2018 12:12:21 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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This really shakes up the fundaments of science. It’s no longer based on what something is physically, it’s based on what you think it is. The possibilities are endless. Imagine what can be accomplished by just thinking it is so. It’s the exciting new world of science fiction.


52 posted on 11/02/2018 12:12:23 AM PDT by robel
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Amazing, we are certainly living in Biblical times.


53 posted on 11/02/2018 12:25:08 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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I find it very sad that there are 1600 persons who claim to be ‘scientists’, including Purported Nobel Laureates, who so obviously reject the basic principle of science, that fact, which is what which is provable by observation and testing, is more important than opinion, feelings, or beliefs in determining scientific truth.
54 posted on 11/02/2018 12:28:09 AM PDT by VietVet
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Define “scientists “.. Because I don’t think that word means what you think it means.


55 posted on 11/02/2018 12:31:48 AM PDT by Ikeon (Do I smell popcorn?)
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"Scientists" don't let "feelings" get in the way of "biology".


56 posted on 11/02/2018 12:39:18 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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