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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez isn't afraid of the rise of robots, but agrees ..they should be taxed (t)
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Posted on 03/11/2019 9:33:12 AM PDT by TigerClaws

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To: TigerClaws

And that’s just going to piss the robots off.

That’s how it starts.


21 posted on 03/11/2019 10:57:38 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: TigerClaws

Make them pay into social security!


22 posted on 03/11/2019 11:05:23 AM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: TigerClaws

Do not laugh....Democrats have wanted a value-added tax for a long time. Automation gives them the ability to levy one.

You see, taxable income is still set by the market.
Profits are set by the market.

But the value added to an item by a robot is determined by a bureaucrat....hence, the ideal situation under socialism.


23 posted on 03/11/2019 11:08:38 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-mob)
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To: TigerClaws
The owners of the robots are already taxed. Nobody's escaping the tax-man.
24 posted on 03/11/2019 11:10:20 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Colonel (Retired) USAFgt.)
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To: TigerClaws

I have had liberals blow up at me when I suggested alternatives to universal basic income (UBI) to the robots taking all our jobs.
They said there is no other alternative to the high unemployment. I said yes, there is, reduce the labor pool.
How do you do that? Close the borders to end immigration, stop issuing visas, and deport illegal immigrants and their American born kids.
That would end the population growth, and it would reduce the labor pool by millions. Equally importantly, it stabilizes or reduces the size of the next generation.
Now you have fewer people competing for the fewer jobs that cannot be outsourced or automated. Unemployment doesn’t go up as high as it otherwise would.
If you DO have to pay unemployment, it becomes more sustainable because you aren’t paying for an increasing pool of unemployed people.


25 posted on 03/11/2019 11:18:12 AM PDT by tbw2
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They’d end up an incentive for “shadow work”, the work they push onto customers and incentivize by making it more inconvenient if you don’t.
For example, they push people to use self-checkout by closing all but one or two manned checkout stations.


26 posted on 03/11/2019 11:19:05 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: wildcard_redneck

I have had liberals blow up at me when I suggested alternatives to universal basic income (UBI) to the robots taking all our jobs.
They said there is no other alternative to the high unemployment. I said yes, there is, reduce the labor pool.
How do you do that? Close the borders to end immigration, stop issuing visas, and deport illegal immigrants and their American born kids.
That would end the population growth, and it would reduce the labor pool by millions. Equally importantly, it stabilizes or reduces the size of the next generation.
Now you have fewer people competing for the fewer jobs that cannot be outsourced or automated. Unemployment doesn’t go up as high as it otherwise would.
If you DO have to pay unemployment, it becomes more sustainable because you aren’t paying for an increasing pool of unemployed people.


27 posted on 03/11/2019 11:19:40 AM PDT by tbw2
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My bank did that. Any time I entered the building to make any sort of transaction, the teller would say: "Our app does that. Do you have our app? You should download our app. It's really helpful. It does what you want me to do. Do you have it? You should download it."

And, of course, the teller would then refuse to help me. They just sent me home to download the app.

The job description of the bank teller had become: "Convince the customers that bank tellers don't deserve to have jobs."

28 posted on 03/11/2019 11:24:24 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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I’ve run into the same spiel. My answer - I have a dumb phone, so I can’t install the app.
When pressured, I either say it is due to financial constraints (I can’t afford it, I’m poor, so you have to) or cite visual issues (implying handicapped).
I don’t have severe vision problems, since I drove there, but the latter isn’t a total lie.
The financial answer isn’t incorrect. I’m not paying hundreds for a smart phone plus the more expensive data plan.
By reminding them everyone cannot just “use an app”, it forces them to remember that we cannot just abandon customer service.
And no, I’m not old or old-fashioned. However, I don’t want to risk the loss of my financial data because I’m using an app and risking data loss both from theft of my device / account info AND their IT security. I’ve already seen my husband’s identity stolen twice, neither his fault, and once in my case. I’m not going to increase the risk for THEIR convenience.


29 posted on 03/11/2019 11:39:15 AM PDT by tbw2
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“They just sent me home to download the app.”


I don’t have a smart-phone-——they would have quite a scene on their hands if they pulled that on me.

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30 posted on 03/11/2019 11:42:03 AM PDT by Mears
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The other thing is that many of those apps do not work if you try to install it on a PC.


31 posted on 03/11/2019 12:52:09 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: wildcard_redneck

So by what you’re saying they actually CLOSE even more small businesses with their agenda.

Shrewd but devious.


32 posted on 03/11/2019 12:52:37 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: tbw2

“The other thing is that many of those apps do not work if you try to install it on a PC.”

I wouldn’t try-—they give me personal service or I go elsewhere.

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33 posted on 03/11/2019 1:08:33 PM PDT by Mears
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To: TigerClaws

The Brains Behind AOC .. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=1h5iv6sECGU


34 posted on 03/11/2019 1:10:33 PM PDT by COUNTrecount (If only Harvey Weinstein's bathrobe could talk.)
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To: TigerClaws

First make sure the robots run on Green Energy, not fossil fuels. Put lttle solar cells or windmills atop their little robot heads!
Then, $15 hr. min. wage for robots. Robots need a humane, liveable wage!
Then, 90% tax rate— but only for the richest robots! At the “tippy top”!


35 posted on 03/11/2019 2:54:13 PM PDT by mumblypeg (I've seen the future, brother. It is murder. --L. Cohen)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That seems to be a major part of the left agenda— convincing workers to vote AGAINST their own best interests.
This has turned out to be frighteningly easy.


36 posted on 03/11/2019 2:58:39 PM PDT by mumblypeg (I've seen the future, brother. It is murder. --L. Cohen)
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