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US ramps up attacks on Russian power grid....
washingtonexaminer. ^ | 6/15/2019 | Alana Goodman

Posted on 06/15/2019 11:04:00 AM PDT by caww

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To: arrogantsob

How could it not be an act of war?

This can’t be true.


41 posted on 06/15/2019 1:12:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: JonPreston

Don’t forget twinkies. They last forever.

TP is nice to have too.


42 posted on 06/15/2019 1:20:46 PM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: marktwain

Yup probably fakenews

“”” Although the Times provided few specific details on the attacks, officials said “””

What “officials”


43 posted on 06/15/2019 1:23:05 PM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: Cvengr

You’re right. It would be terrible. In past threads on this subject, some here say that it wouldn’t be all that bad.


44 posted on 06/15/2019 1:30:35 PM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Pollard

Yes, embrace The Twinkie.


45 posted on 06/15/2019 1:30:53 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: rintintin

Yes


46 posted on 06/15/2019 1:35:53 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Pollard
Don’t forget twinkies. They last forever.


47 posted on 06/15/2019 1:37:33 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: teevolt

[I’ve read that the Russians put a stop to the Ivy-league financial strip mining of the country by folks like Bill Browder.]


The Russian ripped foreign investors off to the tune of tens of billions of dollars. That’s why Russia’s economic output per capita is now behind China’s. No one, domestic or foreign, will invest any money in Russia, because Putin can take it at will. You think Russian oligarchs invest huge sums in Western markets because Europe and the US are fast growing economies, whereas Russia, at 1/7 US output per capita, is a mature market at its economic frontier? They just want to get their cash out of the Russian government’s kleptocratic reach. If you stripped out Russia’s massive natural resource production, its output per capita would fall in half.


48 posted on 06/15/2019 1:47:36 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: caww

From the Onion? I can’t think of too many stupider things to do. Prepare for doing this sure, but do it? If this is true we are already at war.


49 posted on 06/15/2019 1:50:58 PM PDT by reardensteel
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To: caww

Do not believe a thing you read about this. Disinformation is a fine weapon of strategery.


50 posted on 06/15/2019 2:02:16 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: laplata
If the Russians knock out all or parts of our power grid, it would be very bad.

Of course, it would likely be but one element of a multifaceted attack by it and many of its allies, and would be very, very bad.

51 posted on 06/15/2019 2:03:02 PM PDT by frog in a pot
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To: rintintin

Several are doing so as We are here reading about it. Ruskis, Chicoms, youpickanameISTAN, etc.


52 posted on 06/15/2019 2:08:41 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: Zhang Fei

“” “” No one, domestic or foreign, will invest any money in Russia, because Putin can take it at will””” “

People who invested in Russian indices alone at least doubled their investments over last three years.


53 posted on 06/15/2019 2:33:58 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

[People who invested in Russian indices alone at least doubled their investments over last three years.]


Not sure where you’re getting these numbers from. Maybe if you’re using margin debt. From Feb 28 to yesterday, the IMOEX went from 1436 to 2739. That’s compared to a DJIA number of 14054 to 26089. Note that the US is at the economic and technological frontier and therefore slower-growing by default, whereas Russia is an emerging market with 1/6 the US output per capita, whose output literally fluctuates with the price of oil.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/IMOEX.ME/history?period1=1357192800&period2=1560574800&interval=1mo&filter=history&frequency=1mo
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EDJI/history?period1=1339736400&period2=1560574800&interval=1mo&filter=history&frequency=1mo


54 posted on 06/15/2019 3:27:10 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: erkelly

I’m not for provoking a war with Russia but they can clean up their own mess from the days of “The Workers Paradise’’.


55 posted on 06/15/2019 3:34:26 PM PDT by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?''.)
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To: RFEngineer
...If you find vulnerabilities, you save their use until you need them otherwise you are merely making your potential adversary more secure...

The only exception I can think of is if the "fix" would introduce an even greater vulnerability. And even then that is very iffy.

This reeks of fake news.

56 posted on 06/15/2019 6:24:44 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: caww

Country: Russian Federation

The Cyber Crime Regulations - Criminal liability:

1) Sections 1 and 2 of the Article 274.1 of the Criminal Code establishes criminal liability for illegal actions with the critical information infrastructure of the Russian Federation which are:

(1) creation, distribution or usage of software or computer information designed for illegal actions with the said infrastructure (including destruction, alteration, blocking or copying of information or neutralizing of security tools);

(2) illegal access to protected information in critical information infrastructure of the Russian Federation;

(3) violation of rules mentioned in provision re Section 3 of the Article 274.1 of the Criminal Code in Section 5.10 above.

This offence is punishable by imprisonment for period up to 10 years or by compulsory labour for period up to 5 years and by fine in the amount up to 1 000 000 rubles.


57 posted on 06/15/2019 7:11:03 PM PDT by gandalftb
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To: Zhang Fei

“” “” From Feb 28 to yesterday, the IMOEX went from 1436 to 2739. That’s “” “”

That’s near double isn’t it? And we are talking about the economy under the most severe sanctions regime since the Cold War put on near every sensitive sector of that economy.

What investors got fleeced?

“” “” Note that the US is at the economic and technological frontier and therefore slower-growing by default, whereas Russia is an emerging market “” “”

Contradiction is strong with you, isn’t it?


58 posted on 06/15/2019 8:37:29 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: rintintin

IMHO, most of it is because of the Russians’ refusal to bow down to the gaystapo and the Globalists.

I’ve perused several forums pertaining to Russia and most of the posts from the US and the West hurl venom at Russia for “persecuting” gays. I would estimate that around 90 to 95% of the Anti-Russian posts were all about the gays and the Russians refusal to worship homosexuals.


59 posted on 06/16/2019 1:39:40 AM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl
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To: CrimsonTidegirl

And the truth behind this is no persecution of homosexuals takes place in Russia. It is still legal to be a homosexual there unless recruiting minors into such lifestyles. And if the display of homosexualilty before minors took place in warrants.... some $10 fine.
That doesn’t look like persecution under any objective terms.


60 posted on 06/16/2019 7:52:14 AM PDT by NorseViking
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