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Growing research indicates many COVID-19 cases might not be infectious at all
Just the News ^ | September 17, 2020 | Daniel Payne

Posted on 09/18/2020 4:03:47 AM PDT by gattaca

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To: NorthWoody
I pray President Trump is not deceitful. All men sin and all men have lie. But being deceitful for political gains like this is just plain wrong, just as President Clinton was wrong for lying to the public.

Proverbs 6:16-19 - God hates a lying tongue and a false witness who speaks lies.

Jude 16 - These are murmurers and complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, giving admiration to men’s persons to gain advantage

I seriously doubt that President Trump allow the country to be lock down for Covid-19 if it was a lie or he allow it to happen to get votes.



"I applaud him for it and support him to the end of all things."

Becareful on how far you follow someone blindly. I will not follow or take a knee for any man to the end of all things.

Deception of End Times: Warning of Deceit by Men
41 posted on 09/18/2020 7:07:44 PM PDT by DEPcom
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To: DEPcom

The president was speaking truth at the beginning when he said “by Easter” (which was April 12) we need to get people back to church and get things back up and running. I don’t think his heart was even in that, but he was playing along with the lies told by Fauci and Birx about 2 million people dropping dead in the next three months. They had him in a corner and there was nothing else he could really do at that point.

Since then, all the nonsense about masks being “patriotic” and whatever else, has all been lip-service to placate frightened soccer moms.

A lot of people just are not very smart (see my tagline), but their vote counts as much as anyone else’s.

These are the people and things he has to deal with to get re-elected. The opposition’s entire base of operation is lies, projection, and obfuscation. He has no choice but to get in the mud, wrestle the pigs, and try to come out on top.


42 posted on 09/18/2020 7:23:31 PM PDT by NorthWoody (Half of all people are below average, and half of those are in the bottom 25%.)
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To: sanjuanbob; daniel1212

Here’s what I posted way back in July, half a life ago it seems...

I didn’t know anything about the cycle threshold value though:

WORLDOMETER COVID-19 Deaths in USA 7/23/2020: 1,150 with 69,116 new cases
July 23, 2020 at 11:39:23 PM EDT · 22 of 35
EarlyBird to daniel1212
There’s debate about the accuracy of the PCR test also.

It’s found that our own T-cells can kill the virus with no help.

When that happens, remnants of the shattered virus cells exist in the body. PCR will multiply these remnants into a full virus cell, and yield a positive result when the virus has actually been already killed by the body’s own defenses.

That’s what asymptomatic cases really are. You test positive but are not sick. Your body had already killed the virus and you will not spread it.

PCR multiplies the DNA of the shattered virus cells to result in a positive result.

We need a better test.


43 posted on 10/09/2020 2:07:12 PM PDT by EarlyBird (ThereÂ’s a whole lot of winning going on around here!)
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To: EarlyBird

Yes, see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3890459/posts?page=23#23


44 posted on 10/09/2020 5:01:41 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: gas_dr; Vendome

The studies I’ve seen indicate asymptomatic people are responsible for 1% or less of transmission. I know three couples where one person had COVID - without symptoms. The other person did not catch it in spite of living as man & wife.

It may not be impossible for a person without symptoms to transmit the disease, but it seems it is uncommon and not high enough to justify exhaustive measures of prevention. Particularly since someone in their 40s who catches the disease has a 99.98% chance of survival.


45 posted on 10/09/2020 5:18:06 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: gas_dr

+1

The disease has been consequential; the reactions to the the disease have brought even more devastating consquences.


46 posted on 10/09/2020 6:04:52 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: gattaca
This idiocy began when the pols and bureaucrats start calling every positive test result a "case," whether the person is sick or not or has any symptoms. To normal people a "case" is a sick person, but not to these bureaucrats.

Yessirree, this is "science"!

47 posted on 10/09/2020 6:11:06 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: sanjuanbob

The entire world needs to use a standard number of cycles to determine if someone gets a positive result. The world also needs a standard way of determining whether a person died of coronavirus. Early on I was aware that Germany does not declare someone’s death from coronavirus unless it was the only health problem that person had. In the USA anyone who is found with any coronavirus, even in the autopsy, gets counted as a C virus stuff. That is ridiculous.


48 posted on 10/09/2020 6:15:22 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: gattaca

Was in the grocery store last week. Someone coughed and you should have seen other people’s expressions. I said not too loud, but loud enough that a few people heard “For gosh sakes he coughed, please go home if you can’t deal with a human REFLEX”

Just shook my head and walked away. A woman came up to me and said “thank you”. I said I was embarrassed I even needed to say anything and said people are becoming incapable of thinking rationally.


49 posted on 10/09/2020 6:25:24 PM PDT by Fury (.)
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To: Vendome

gas_dr Is not a FearBro. Dispute details if you must but aim your fire at the opposition. You’re both on the same side of the battlefield.


50 posted on 10/10/2020 7:38:06 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: gattaca

It would be useful to see a scatter plot of say 10 000 PCR CT results.

Why say “many could be” when we have the data?


51 posted on 10/10/2020 2:47:44 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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