Posted on 03/05/2022 11:04:55 PM PST by Angelino97
Since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine began last week, most Israeli leaders across the political spectrum have either expressed full support for Ukrainians or cautiously supported a neutral approach for strategic reasons, fearful of harming the country’s interests in Russia-controlled Syria.
A minority on the right, however, has gone as far as to express a measure of sympathy and identification with Russian President Vladimir Putin’s justifications for Russia asserting a historic claim to Ukrainian territory.
“People in Russia suit Putin’s rule. Kyiv is Russia’s birthplace. Kyiv for Putin is like Bethlehem and Hebron,” said Maj. Gen. (ret.) Gershon Hacohen, a senior research associate at the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies, in a recent interview on Kan public television.
Hacohen questioned the assumption that Israel needed to stand with the “Free World” and be on the “right side of history.”
“Is the European Union on ‘the right side of history’ when it opposes me when it comes to Judea and Samaria [the West Bank], building for the Palestinians and pouring money into anti-Zionist NGOs?” he said. “I have to ask myself: what is the right side of history for me?”
While condemning the brutality of Putin’s invasion, some right-wing commentators – similar to their U.S. counterparts, most famously Fox News host Tucker Carlson – positively contrasted the Russian leader’s strength with what they see as the weakness of leaders in Western Europe and the United States, and their failure to offer a counterbalance to his aggression over the years.
Noam Fathi, a right-wing journalist and broadcaster, as well a fierce advocate of former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, tweeted that it was NATO and the West who were “standing on the ‘stupid side of history,’” since “it’s the NATO countries who repeatedly provoked Putin, blatantly violated agreements with him …
(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...
Does that mean its quotes are inaccurate?
Smile
Concerning the USSR, no one ever expected them to live up to
any agreements they made.
Under Putin, I believe he was breaking missile agreements just
like the USSR used to break agreements.
Nice mention there, Stalin and Molotov.
“ingratitude … How many welfare recipients in the U.S. feel gratitude?”
If I broke into Mexico and they were keeping me from a life of destitution/starvation with payments, I couldn’t imagine going out in public and waving a U.S. flag and talking about what they owe me and how we should really own their country. Ingratitude, yes. Spoiled brats. Entitled. Unappreciative.
Haaretz is not only ultra left, it has advocated repeatedly for policies which would end Israel.
The majority of Israel’s are not in favor of their own demise.
Just watched a piece, where China and Iran have been blowing up the web in favor of Putin wiping out Ukraine.
Exactly. The Bible isn’t a book of divination where you plug in today’s events, apply some secret formula, and it will tell you what will happen next.
God used the US to ensure Israel’s survival. I can go with that.
However, it still means that, if it weren’t for the US, Israel might not exist. The US was a vassal for God. It also still means that Israel should be loyal in return and suddenly siding with the enemy for opportune reasons.
God used the US to ensure Israel’s survival. I can go with that.
However, it still means that, if it weren’t for the US, Israel might not exist. The US was a vassal for God. It also still means that Israel should be loyal in return and not suddenly siding with the enemy for opportune reasons.
Haaretz is a leftwing Israeli rag that wants Israel wiped out more than the muslims do.
Is Jonty a muslim plant?
“Nobody explicitly wished the US dead,...”
Thank you.
“However, it still means that, if it weren’t for the US, Israel might not exist. The US was a vassal for God. It also still means that Israel should be loyal in return and not suddenly siding with the enemy for opportune reasons.”
The Russians are the controlling major power in Syria. The Israelis have reached a well-documented arrangement with the Russians that allows them to launch attacks in Syria.
So it’s a matter of vital national interest to Israel not to jeopardize that.
And really, recognizing that countries don’t have permanent friends, they have permanent interests would benefit the U.S. quite a lot.
You know this -
Kiev was the capital of Kiev-n-Rus from the 6th Century to the 16th Century, and the jurisdiction went roughly from the North Sea to the Urals, down to the Black Sea.
Ivan the Terrible reduced Ukraine (borderland), to the borders we see roughly today. Granted it has been disputed and taken, and retaken several times.
From two of my Russian History pro’s in Moscow, between Lenin/Stalin to Khrushchev, approximately 12.5 Million Ukrainian people were either killed, or intentionally starved to death, excluding WWII.
THAT IS BAD -
Many were sent to Siberia and replaced with “White Russians”.
Ukraine wasn’t alone in thos strategy. Much of the Warsaw Pact experienced the same in varying degrees.
They were simply disloyal to the point they would gladly step back and watch 350 million Americans be killed.
They would dance and cheer over that, but they didn’t explicitly wish the US dead.
Is that better for you?
Not in the least. I’m on Israel’s side, except for the sides of Israel that sides with the Muslims.
I could have never envisioned the face off all this has resulted in and bizarre bedfellows and the seismic crack tween the right especially between most righties and our so called leaders
The globalist agit prop info control sound and fury coming from all ends of the political spectrum and rejected by many if not most on the right is simply put
Unprecedented
The way they dumped Trump...nay turned on him after the Big Steal was a wake up call
This is yet another
All of which is a much bigger threat than Putin
Like Bannon said and oft misquoted in his reference to Lenin
Bring it all crashing down and rebuild ...it the only way
You know this -
Kiev was the capital of Kiev-n-Rus from the 6th Century to the 16th Century, and the jurisdiction went roughly from the North Sea to the Urals, down to the Black Sea.
Ivan the Terrible reduced Ukraine (borderland), to the borders we see roughly today, while creating Russia.
So yes, simplified, a common history, but two countries historically.
Granted it has been disputed and taken, and retaken several times.
From two of my Russian History prof’s in Moscow, between Lenin/Stalin to Khrushchev, approximately 12.5 Million Ukrainian people were either killed, or intentionally starved to death, excluding “The Great War (WWII).
THAT IS BAD -
Many were sent to Siberia and replaced with “White Russians”.
Ukraine wasn’t alone in thos strategy. Much of the Warsaw Pact experienced the same in varying degrees.
If you actually read the article in the left wing Israeli rag
Haretz you will see that, contradicting the headline, only a small portion of “Israelis” side with Putin.
This ability to trigger Jew Haters shows how harmful Haretz really is.
Someone needs to slip Putin some poison.
Put a 25 mil reward on hin to that end. With 40 mil to th ed family of th be assassin if he loses his life in the successful attempt to forever extinguish this tyrant . A powerful incentive to ‘ go for broke’ ....
Radical you say? What would the
e world have been like with no Stalin , no Hitler , no Mao, etc etc etc ?.....
We humans stupidly tolerate the intolerable, for a vast variety of inane reasons and then pay terrible costs for our sheepish complacency.
Yes and they fear if they join NATO nukes will return ...or they publicly state that is a fear
300 miles from Moscow
It’s not an illegitimate question
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