Biden calls for retraining cops: ‘Why should you always shoot with deadly force?’

New York Post ^ | January 16, 2023 | Victor Nava

[Brian Griffin]

Because police try to use other methods before resorting to deadly force (because they no longer have an alternative).

[dennisw]

Kneecap em or shoot them in the elbow.

[KrisKrinkle]

So, can someone charged with assault with a deadly weapon claim they were not using the weapon in a deadly manner, use Biden’s words as support, and get off?

[Allegra]

It’s a shame ol’ Diaper-Butt doesn’t have the same concern for the victims of violent crime perpetrated by mindless thugs.

[Revel]

I have to admit that there are times when Double tap to kill is not neccisary for the reasonable safety of officers. Like shooting a mentally disturbed man standing 50 feet away with a butter knife. But someone with a gun can kill them real fast. So options are much more limited.

[Myrddin]

I had a brief exchange with a law enforcement type who crowed about how good his armored vest protects him. I told him that an armored vest is immediate cause to shift point of aim to the femoral artery. He just about pooped his pants. Seriously, a vest is a great tool, but it doesn't cover femoral or carotid shots.

[Secret Agent Man]

Yeah, I agree with you

The legs become big targets

Head does too

Also basically gut and groin as well, those are really bad to be hit in, and the vests dont cover lower gut and groin

[Myrddin]

My wife was running the radios on a SWAT dispatch to a trailer. A woman, two children and an armed male felon. The guy had a 12 gauge and a 357mag revolver. He fired the 12 gauge making a pretty large hole in the trailer. He fired the 357mag at least 3 times. One struck an officer in the back...directly over the heart...but was stopped by his vest. The same guy got hit again on his vest breaking his left clavicle. A different officer took a 357 round to the butt where it remains today...inoperable. Two wounded. No deaths. SWAT action called off. The felon was arrested in an adjacent county the next day.

[DoughtyOne]

Sadly, some will hear his voice when no one is around to explain.

[tina07]

Just wing ‘em a la Barnaby Jones, eh Joey?

[GreyHoundSailor]

Shooting ‘to stop the person’ means going for a kill shot.

[Reeses]

Then it will be, why did they shoot him in the leg? He was an aspiring football or basketball player, they robhed him of his future career. We sue.

Every personal injury lawyer's dream is to push a wheelchair bound plaintiff in front of a jury. That's a guaranteed $20 million payday no matter the circumstances. No liability insurance is available to any city that trains its officers for leg shoots.

In some countries, the police are trained to go out of their way to avoid shooting perps, but they don't have a legal lotto system to worry about, nor a flood of violent criminals roaming free.

Like choo-choo trains, pew-pew pistols are an 1800s technology. Man catch traps, robo-cops and K9s, and drones with flying nets could be deployed to reduce the need to shoot perps, however there is not much interest from the general public. In America, there are just too many career criminals out there that need killing.

[wardaddy]

Freepers and their hard and fast gun battle rules

How many here have actually been in One

Combat vets here have different rules of engagement than cops or civvies do

Or should

[KrisKrinkle]

“Shooting ‘to stop the person’ means going for a kill shot.”

My understanding is that saying your intent was, is, or will be to kill can land you in court. Your intent should be to “stop”. Whether the target ends up dead or wounded is secondary and if the target is still alive after being definitely stopped it’s not legal to kill them.

[GreyHoundSailor]

After Rule #1 is Rule #2- shut up.

[joshua c]

it was friendly fire

[Trump_Triumphant]

He ie such an ignorant nitwit.

[DeplorablePaul]

I guess some women are turned on by a guy in uniform.
Officer Maegan Hall of the La Vergne, Tenn., police department, was fired after allegations emerged she engaged in sex with co-workers, sent them nude pictures, took off her top at a “Girls Gone Wild”-themed hot tub party, and performed oral sex on two fellow officers while on duty.

[gundog]

She’d probably hike up her skirt for anyone that asked about the tattoo on her thigh.

[chopperk]

Biden just wants to give killers a sporting chance, maybe that is the way its done in Delaware.