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Biden calls for retraining cops: ‘Why should you always shoot with deadly force?’
New York Post ^ | January 16, 2023 | Victor Nava

Posted on 01/16/2023 6:28:35 PM PST by Labyrinthos

President Biden on Monday called for police officers to be retrained so they’re taught not to use deadly force in every situation that requires them to fire their weapon.

The 80-year-old president’s comments came during the National Action Network’s Martin Luther King, Jr. Day Breakfast in Washington, DC, as Biden blasted Senate Republicans for blocking a police reform bill in 2021 that would’ve restricted the use of deadly force by law enforcement officers.

“We have to retrain cops,” Biden said. “Why should you always shoot with deadly force? The fact is if you need to use your weapon, you don’t have to do that.”

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Biden made a similar suggestion about the use of deadly force by police on the presidential campaign trail in 2020, at the height of the George Floyd riots, arguing that police officers should be trained to shoot threatening individuals “in the leg instead of the heart.”

“Instead of standing there and teaching a cop when there’s an unarmed person coming at them with a knife or something, shoot them in the leg instead of in the heart,” Biden told African American community leaders in June of 2020 at Bethel AME Church in Wilmington, Delaware.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antipolice; banglist; biden; blitheringidiot; moroninchief; police; potatobrain; royrogers; training; villageidiot
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To: Labyrinthos

Because police try to use other methods before resorting to deadly force (because they no longer have an alternative).


81 posted on 01/16/2023 8:57:48 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Labyrinthos

Kneecap em or shoot them in the elbow.


82 posted on 01/16/2023 8:59:02 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: Labyrinthos

So, can someone charged with assault with a deadly weapon claim they were not using the weapon in a deadly manner, use Biden’s words as support, and get off?


83 posted on 01/16/2023 8:59:57 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (c)
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To: Labyrinthos

It’s a shame ol’ Diaper-Butt doesn’t have the same concern for the victims of violent crime perpetrated by mindless thugs.


84 posted on 01/16/2023 9:05:39 PM PST by Allegra
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To: Labyrinthos

I have to admit that there are times when Double tap to kill is not neccisary for the reasonable safety of officers. Like shooting a mentally disturbed man standing 50 feet away with a butter knife. But someone with a gun can kill them real fast. So options are much more limited.


85 posted on 01/16/2023 9:20:53 PM PST by Revel
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To: Secret Agent Man
I had a brief exchange with a law enforcement type who crowed about how good his armored vest protects him. I told him that an armored vest is immediate cause to shift point of aim to the femoral artery. He just about pooped his pants. Seriously, a vest is a great tool, but it doesn't cover femoral or carotid shots.
86 posted on 01/16/2023 9:29:06 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Yeah, I agree with you

The legs become big targets

Head does too

Also basically gut and groin as well, those are really bad to be hit in, and the vests dont cover lower gut and groin


87 posted on 01/16/2023 9:31:23 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Calamari
My wife was running the radios on a SWAT dispatch to a trailer. A woman, two children and an armed male felon. The guy had a 12 gauge and a 357mag revolver. He fired the 12 gauge making a pretty large hole in the trailer. He fired the 357mag at least 3 times. One struck an officer in the back...directly over the heart...but was stopped by his vest. The same guy got hit again on his vest breaking his left clavicle. A different officer took a 357 round to the butt where it remains today...inoperable. Two wounded. No deaths. SWAT action called off. The felon was arrested in an adjacent county the next day.
88 posted on 01/16/2023 9:37:22 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Labyrinthos

Sadly, some will hear his voice when no one is around to explain.


89 posted on 01/16/2023 9:44:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: Labyrinthos

Just wing ‘em a la Barnaby Jones, eh Joey?


90 posted on 01/16/2023 9:45:28 PM PST by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85 )
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To: KrisKrinkle

Shooting ‘to stop the person’ means going for a kill shot.


91 posted on 01/16/2023 9:56:18 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: Secret Agent Man
Then it will be, why did they shoot him in the leg? He was an aspiring football or basketball player, they robhed him of his future career. We sue.

Every personal injury lawyer's dream is to push a wheelchair bound plaintiff in front of a jury. That's a guaranteed $20 million payday no matter the circumstances. No liability insurance is available to any city that trains its officers for leg shoots.

In some countries, the police are trained to go out of their way to avoid shooting perps, but they don't have a legal lotto system to worry about, nor a flood of violent criminals roaming free.

Like choo-choo trains, pew-pew pistols are an 1800s technology. Man catch traps, robo-cops and K9s, and drones with flying nets could be deployed to reduce the need to shoot perps, however there is not much interest from the general public. In America, there are just too many career criminals out there that need killing.

92 posted on 01/16/2023 9:58:20 PM PST by Reeses
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To: Labyrinthos

Freepers and their hard and fast gun battle rules

How many here have actually been in One

Combat vets here have different rules of engagement than cops or civvies do

Or should


93 posted on 01/16/2023 10:01:13 PM PST by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of liars)
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To: GreyHoundSailor

“Shooting ‘to stop the person’ means going for a kill shot.”

My understanding is that saying your intent was, is, or will be to kill can land you in court. Your intent should be to “stop”. Whether the target ends up dead or wounded is secondary and if the target is still alive after being definitely stopped it’s not legal to kill them.


94 posted on 01/16/2023 10:24:17 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (c)
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To: KrisKrinkle

After Rule #1 is Rule #2- shut up.


95 posted on 01/16/2023 10:46:46 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: gundog

it was friendly fire


96 posted on 01/16/2023 11:29:55 PM PST by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: Labyrinthos

He ie such an ignorant nitwit.


97 posted on 01/16/2023 11:33:59 PM PST by Trump_Triumphant
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To: gundog
I guess some women are turned on by a guy in uniform.
Officer Maegan Hall of the La Vergne, Tenn., police department, was fired after allegations emerged she engaged in sex with co-workers, sent them nude pictures, took off her top at a “Girls Gone Wild”-themed hot tub party, and performed oral sex on two fellow officers while on duty.

98 posted on 01/16/2023 11:57:43 PM PST by DeplorablePaul (protesters)
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To: DeplorablePaul

She’d probably hike up her skirt for anyone that asked about the tattoo on her thigh.


99 posted on 01/17/2023 12:07:54 AM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: mfish13

Biden just wants to give killers a sporting chance, maybe that is the way its done in Delaware.


100 posted on 01/17/2023 12:50:07 AM PST by chopperk
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