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Top retired Russian general says Putin is leading his country to defeat and humiliation in Ukraine and blames the President for uniting the West with disastrous invasion
MAILONLINE ^ | 14 February 2023 | By WILL STEWART and CHRIS JEWERS

Posted on 02/14/2023 5:27:44 PM PST by dennisw

'At the operational-tactical level, we did not think that within a year we would not be able to liberate the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

'We did not think that there would be such heavy losses, although I then said there would be tens of thousands of dead on both sides.

'But everything turned out to be much worse.'

Some estimates say the losses on both sides are now over 200,000, and rising fast. Russia alone is estimated to have lost as many as 140,000 since February last year.

'It was not expected that there would be such destruction: in fact, entire small towns and villages were demolished to their foundations,' Ivashov said.

'Further, I wrote that we would find ourselves a pariah state, but, frankly, I did not think that we would not have a single ally that has serious influence on the political, economic or military-technical level.'

Ivashov blames Putin for triggering a new alignment between the US and China, and expects this to bear fruit with the pair holding the major sway in the world.

'Russia in such a picture of the world is not mentioned at all as a political player,' he said. 'So now they will create a bipolar world, but without our participation.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 02/14/2023 5:27:44 PM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw
Retired army colonel-general Leonid Ivashov (pictured) last year called for Vladimir Putin to resign, saying he had been pursuing a 'criminal' policy in 'provoking' an 'artificial' conflict in Ukraine. He has now said Putin is leading Russia to defeat and humiliation in the war

Retired army colonel-general Leonid Ivashov (pictured) last year called for Vladimir Putin to resign, saying he had been pursuing a 'criminal' policy in 'provoking' an 'artificial' conflict in Ukraine. He has now said Putin is leading Russia to defeat and humiliation in the war

2 posted on 02/14/2023 5:29:39 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: dennisw

Dennisw in with the fake Daily Mail prop on ukie land!!


3 posted on 02/14/2023 5:30:15 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: dennisw

Just curious, what would defeat Russia? Social unrest or a coup? That seems unlikely.


4 posted on 02/14/2023 5:32:42 PM PST by Vision (Woke is communism and it has no place in America. Election Reform Now! Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: dennisw

Is his cup of tea half empty, or half full — of polonium?


5 posted on 02/14/2023 5:34:45 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Vision

Brain Drain is going to be a real thing in Russia.

When Russian find out they can walk across the Rio Grande and get good paying IT jobs, it will be like someone pulled the plug on a bathtub.


6 posted on 02/14/2023 5:36:46 PM PST by UNGN
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To: dennisw

This:

“’Further, I wrote that we would find ourselves a pariah state, but, frankly, I did not think that we would not have a single ally that has serious influence on the political, economic or military-technical level.’”

putin/russia have been losing since last February

how long will the russian people accept it?


7 posted on 02/14/2023 5:40:57 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: UNGN

Maybe, sure, but it won’t stop the war.


8 posted on 02/14/2023 5:41:46 PM PST by Vision (Woke is communism and it has no place in America. Election Reform Now! Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: UNGN

Vlady already closed the doors

like all bad dictatorships, you are not free to leave ... you now need a special government permit to leave Russia

guess they got another mobilization coming up?


9 posted on 02/14/2023 5:42:13 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Sunsong

How long before you disappear for years again?


10 posted on 02/14/2023 5:48:32 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: canuck_conservative

Liar. You must be confused with your own country.

Canada is the fascist king of the world right now.


11 posted on 02/14/2023 5:49:40 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: MarMema

oh look, the BS queen


12 posted on 02/14/2023 5:50:07 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: MarMema

After The Ukraine is roadkill on the neocons’ march to their next regime change project.


13 posted on 02/14/2023 5:53:57 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Sunsong
Did you have a nice seven-year sleep, Sunsong?

That must have been some easy password...

14 posted on 02/14/2023 5:54:53 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Vision

If Putin Mobilizes 500K and they burn “Highways of Death” style in Ukraine, the Russian people aren’t going to let Putin Triple Down on defeat.

1 Year ago Putin’s cronies bragged they’d be rolling through Ukraine in 3 days. That is never going to happen. They’ve lost surprise, they’ve lost the bridges, they lost air superiority and they’ve lost A LOT of their best weapons. Weapons like the SU-34 or the KA-52 can’t even fly over Ukrainian positions any more as 1/4 of the flying fleets of both have been shot down and that was before the NASAM’s showed up.

Even the Z’st Putin Syncophant is going to start blaming Putin for not achieving the victory he promised. Putin’s obvious pivot is Barrack this bitch and blame everyone but himself.

The Brain Drain won’t end the war, but there won’t be anyone left who wants to fight it.


15 posted on 02/14/2023 5:56:25 PM PST by UNGN
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
sWill Stewart and "Crips" Jewers, the MI-6 fabulists who write propAgenda for the Daily Fail.

Stick to tiddies and pert bums, boys - it's what your rag is good at.

16 posted on 02/14/2023 5:56:47 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: dennisw

Turns out it wasn’t FALSE, Polygraph got it wrong again…just like Politifact does 90% of the time:

Leonid Ivashov
a former top Russian defense ministry official:

“It indicates that they, the Americans in the first place, are preparing to start a war in Europe, and you can wage a war in Europe against Russia only.“
Source: RT, November 8, 2017

Top Russian General: U.S. and NATO ‘Preparing to Start a War’ with Russia in Europe

https://www.polygraph.info/a/russian-general-says-us-and-nato-preparing-war-in-europe/6741700.html


17 posted on 02/14/2023 5:57:17 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: UNGN; Vision
1 Year ago Putin’s cronies bragged they’d be rolling through Ukraine in 3 days.

I think the mission switched to demilitarizing the Ukraine, the US, the EuroPeeing Union and NAFO.

It looks like a success.

18 posted on 02/14/2023 5:59:07 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: UNGN
“the Russian people aren't going to let Putin Triple Down on defeat.”

I think this has been Biden's plan since the beginning and personally I doubt the Russian people can or will do anything. The West, lead by America have made a horrible, obvious error. Clown President creates a nightmare world.

19 posted on 02/14/2023 6:02:33 PM PST by Vision (Woke is communism and it has no place in America. Election Reform Now! Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: kiryandil

Looks like success? Good Lord. Ukraine is flattened and Russia won’t be stopping. There’s nothing to stop them. They’re not going to run out of bodies or oil money.


20 posted on 02/14/2023 6:04:29 PM PST by Vision (Woke is communism and it has no place in America. Election Reform Now! Obama is an evildoer.)
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