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To: canuck_conservative
There would be NO war in Ukraine if we hadn't meddled in Ukraine, fomented an illegal coup, installed a government hostile to the Russians and ethnic Russian population, trained and funded a 600,000 man Ukrainian army, set up biolabs in Ukraine with deadly pathogens in them and teased NATO membership for Ukraine.

If Russia or China had done anything like that in Mexico, WE WOULD HAVE, JUSTIFIABLY, INVADED.

You're narratives is a lie.

You hate the Russians, get your cowardly ass to Ukraine and voluntary to fight them, you gutless wonder.

Demand your country declare war on Russia instead of asking American taxpayers to keep funding this failed debacle.

19 posted on 03/28/2024 9:41:09 AM PDT by Kazan (Megan C. bet me, lost the bet and was humiliated!)
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To: Kazan

You should be aware that poster you are directing this at has made head shots on running coyotes at a mile away

Pretty sure she could have single-handedly turned the tide of this conflict in Ukraine’s favor within hours.....


49 posted on 03/28/2024 10:46:47 AM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: Kazan
“There would be NO war in Ukraine if we hadn't meddled in Ukraine, fomented an illegal coup”

Then the Russians would just start more wars and we woud have to get involved later when it might be more disadvantageous. May I remind everyone that Kazan is city in Russia. You may also consider the poster history and ask if he is really one of us.

90 posted on 03/28/2024 2:31:10 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: Kazan

***There would be NO war in Ukraine if we hadn’t meddled in Ukraine, fomented an illegal coup, installed a government hostile to the Russians and ethnic Russian population, trained and funded a 600,000 man Ukrainian army, set up biolabs in Ukraine with deadly pathogens in them and teased NATO membership for Ukraine.***

Recap for those who have become confused by Kremlin propaganda:

- Ukraine elected a supposedly pro-EU president (Viktor Yanukovych) who said he would move towards a closer trading relationship with the EU.
- But when it was time to start finalising/signing agreements with the EU the pro-EU president decided he was now pro-Russia instead so he wouldn’t be signing anything with the EU.
- The Ukrainian people got angry and peacefully protested.
- The now pro-Russian president had some of them shot.
- The Ukrainian people got a lot more angry and rioted.
- The now pro-Russian president fled from Kiev.
- The Ukrainian government fired the now openly pro-Russian president.
- The pro-Russian president then fled Ukraine and went to live in Russia.
- Russia then used the confusion to annex the Crimean peninsula using troops stationed there to protect the Black Sea Fleet plus unmarked troops “on holiday”.
- Russia sent unmarked troops “on holiday” to Donetsk and Luhansk, meeting up with local Russian immigrants and pro-Russian Ukrainian malcontents and starting a “separatist” movement.
- Once Ukraine got it’s act together the “separatists” started getting their asses kicked by the Ukrainian military.
- Russia sent tanks, artillery and anti-aircraft systems to back up their forces and proxies in the east, claiming all the time they were Ukrainians using their own equipment (this was completely debunked due to those forces using open radio communications and possessing Russian weapons systems never exported to Ukraine).
- Either Russian operatives or pro-Russian “separatists” accidentally shot down a commercial airliner, thus drawing massive international attention to the conflict and making Russia’s open support of their proxies and sympathisers in Donetsk/Luhansk untenable.
- The Minsk Agreements were negotiated in 2014/15 which called for a ceasefire, as Russia could no longer openly send the troops/weapons required to hold ground and Ukraine lacked the capabilities to defeat their forces outright.
- Then 8 years after the Crimea land grab, on the 24th of February 2022, Russia invaded the rest of the eastern half of Ukraine (with the aim of taking the whole country east of the Dnipro river) in a “3 day special military operation” that has now been dragging on for over 2 years.


95 posted on 03/28/2024 5:52:34 PM PDT by David Hunter
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To: Kazan
To Ukrainians, this is their "Greatest Generation".
98 posted on 03/28/2024 6:39:13 PM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦....We are in the later stages of a Communist takeover...)
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To: Kazan; canuck_conservative; MeganC; mewzilla

The outer perimeter, is the border of Ukraine, and nothing inside, is Russian territory.


https://twitter.com/BrilliantMaps/status/1498655743167315976

Electoral Geography:

https://www.electoralgeography.com/new/en/countries/u/ukraine/ukraine-independence-referendum-1991.html

- - - Ethnic Groups in Ukraine - 1926 Soviet Cencus

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Moscow's proxy war in, and invasion of, Ukraine, was planned by Putin, long ago:

Putin began planning the invasion of Georgia, in 1999.

Putin began planning the invasion of Ukraine, in 2003. See:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2AwAXcScds

On The Effective Use of Proxy Warfare - by Andrew Lewis Peek, May 2021, Dissertation for PhD

CHAPTER THREE: RUSSIA AND UKRAINE, 2013-2016 [pg 118 of 446 in the PDF file] "This chapter will examine Russia’s use of proxy forces in Ukraine from the beginning of demonstrations in Kiev’s Maidan Square on November 21, 2013 to the dissipation of the conflict in 2016. Though it covers all the high-intensity periods of the war, this chapter is focused on the fighting in Donbas and not Russia’s takeover of Crimea."

The Budapest Memorandum And The Russia-Ukraine Crisis

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143 posted on 04/01/2024 1:35:17 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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