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British Author claims the Chinese, not Columbus, found America First
The Sacramento Bee ^ | Tuesday, January 7, 2003 | Ted Bell

Posted on 01/07/2003 4:49:27 PM PST by yankeedame

Critics say new book is all junk

A British author claims the Chinese, not Columbus, found America first.

By Ted Bell -- Bee Staff Writer

Published 2:15 a.m. PST Tuesday, January 7, 2003

British author Gavin Menzies' controversial book "1421 -- The Year China Discovered America", which goes on sale in the United States this week, claims that America was discovered by Chinese explorers 70 years before Columbus arrived. Part of the alleged proof behind Menzies' theory -- which is being heatedly contested by more traditional historians -- purportedly rests beneath about 40 feet of Glenn County mud in the form of an ancient Chinese junk, itself the subject of considerable debate.

As a starting point, the retired Royal Navy submarine commander relies heavily on the 1421 voyage of a great fleet of oceangoing Chinese junks under the command of the eunuch admiral Zheng He.

Two years later, seven ships returned and the Ming emperor ordered them all to be dismantled, the sailors paid off and all records of the voyage destroyed.

Traditional historians have, for years, agreed that the Zheng He fleet did sail, made it to East Africa, then turned around and came home in 1423.

Menzies, an amateur historian, insists that the fleet never turned back, but instead rounded the Cape of Good Hope and then went on to discover the New World.

According to Menzies' view, the Chinese sent expeditions in North America as far inland as Kansas and, from San Francisco Bay, up the Sacramento River into Glenn County.

Menzies claims the California evidence is an unseen Chinese junk entombed in mud in a former Sacramento River channel near the tiny hamlet of Glenn, about 15 miles southwest of Chico. Medieval Chinese armor was supposedly found at the site, but alas, it was loaned to a local high school and lost, he said.

As in Europe, the book's publication in the United States is being preceded by a healthy publicity campaign. The book's U.S. publisher is William Morrow & Co. of New York.

Pearson Broadband, the multimedia division of the London-based global media giant Pearson PLC, is providing funds for more archaeological work at the Glenn County site and also is underwriting a television series on the Ming fleet, "When China Discovered the World," based in part on "1421."

"Gavin is not a scholar or a scientist. He's a detective," said Pearson Broadband executive producer John Steele. "He's opened a door that we're going to take our viewers through."

The Menzies book hasn't been warmly received by traditional historians in Europe. In it, Menzies depicts such European explorers as Vasco da Gama, Christopher Columbus and Francisco Pizarro as bloodthirsty criminals while the Chinese were peaceful traders.

In an article published in the New York Times Sunday Magazine this week, Oxford University professor Felipe Fernandez-Armesto said Menzies had put "five gallons in a half-pint pot" and said Menzies' theories weren't even worth addressing.

"It's not really worth my time," Fernandez-Armesto told the Times. "What's really interesting about it is that the book's taken off. It's like some Elvis fad!"

The controversy about a purported pre-Columbus Chinese visit is well under way in Glenn County.

Rumors of a Chinese ship have circulated in that county for 70 years, ever since two farmers hand-boring a well said they found some bronze artifacts that someone, somehow, authenticated as Chinese armor.

In 1979, Dave Stewart, whose grandfather farmed just downriver from the Glenn County site, said he discovered an iron ingot there and that an unspecified laboratory at California State University, Chico, tested it and found that it came from a low-temperature blast furnace and had been poured into a sand mold.

Stewart said he also learned that the Chinese used iron ingots as ballast for their junks.

Stewart asked John Furry, a Butte Community College instructor who had explored many Northern California areas, to work on the site using his magnetometer.

Furry says his instrument, which detects disturbances in Earth's magnetic field -- has shown the presence of something shaped like an 85-foot-long ship with its bow pointed upstream.

Since then, Furry and Stewart say that boring samples at the site have pulled up shards of pottery and pieces of wood some experts believe are from trees that grow only in Asia, and huge amounts of seeds that may have been in storage containers.

Furry said Monday that Menzies contacted him after reading about his claims in a 2001 Sacramento Bee report on the Internet.

One of the California history experts who says it is all nonsense is Greg White, director of the Archeological Research Program at Chico State.

"To my knowledge, there has been no evidence to support these claims," White said Monday.

Besides the lack of any validated and published evidence, White said the pieces of "pottery" brought to Chico State for analysis turned out to be pieces of sandstone shaped by the boring machine.

White also questions that any magnetometer, let alone Furry's relatively simple one, could detect the outline of a ship deeper than 16 feet below the surface.

Getting a ship that far upriver also is improbable, White said. The Sacramento River in Glenn County was systematically blocked by gravel bars throughout history until diesel dredges were taken up there.

"To suggest that (the river channel) could have been navigated is absurd," While said.

Such skepticism apparently hasn't daunted Menzies or Pearson, which is launching what it calls "the incredible true story" with the claim that "Gavin Menzies's extraordinary findings rewrite history."

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KEYWORDS: 1421; ancientnavigation; china; gavinmenzies; godsgravesglyphs; lasiodermaserricorne; navigation; tobaccobeetle
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Have at it, gang!
1 posted on 01/07/2003 4:49:27 PM PST by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame
Neither found it first. It was either the Irish or the Vikings.
2 posted on 01/07/2003 4:52:31 PM PST by Commander8
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To: yankeedame
What tripe! Everybody knows the Raelian Aliens discovered America, using continent-sniffing Chinese dogs.
3 posted on 01/07/2003 4:52:57 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: yankeedame
claims that America was discovered by Chinese explorers 70 years before Columbus

Well they will just have to stand in line. Pre-Columbia America appears to have been a damn Stop-N-Shop.

4 posted on 01/07/2003 4:54:42 PM PST by Diana Rose
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To: yankeedame
Bogus beyond belief.
5 posted on 01/07/2003 4:55:36 PM PST by friendly
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To: yankeedame
The book "Pale Ink," which was later published in paperback a few copies with the sensational title "Gods from the Far East..." says all of this better, a generation or two ago.

We know the Chinese were in N America in antiquity, including perhaps an attempt at Buddhist missionizing in the 400's AD.

Deep in antiquity, Chinese explorers had no doubt tried to survey America in their way, and there is a reference in the Chinese classics to the "Great Eastern Waste" and to the Grand Canyon.

The best evidence is a reference to the width of the Pacific as so many li, about correct, and then say the Great Eastern Waste is reached, and if it is crossed, [again a number of li is given, about correct at 3000 miles]...another ocean is found, great and blue and trackless.

6 posted on 01/07/2003 4:56:44 PM PST by crystalk
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To: yankeedame
Are the families going to allow THIS guy to reveal the DNA evidence? I didn't think so. Perhaps an identical clone story will be born next week. We can only hope.
7 posted on 01/07/2003 4:57:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Bonaparte
There ya go. You're too quick.
8 posted on 01/07/2003 4:58:31 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: yankeedame
Oh well, jig's up. We'd best return it to the Chinese and go back from where we came from.
9 posted on 01/07/2003 4:59:16 PM PST by Caipirabob (Tag line? I can be obnoxious in two spots at once? How efficient!)
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To: Diana Rose
I wrote in a paper in college, generations ago, that "there was probably scarcely a decade from 2500 BC to 1500 AD, in which some ship or other, carrying some unfortunates more or less, did NOT fetch up somewhere on the American continents, ...mostly carrying dying survivors on their last legs, desperately in need of assistance, which the empty continents in their howling savagery could never have provided."
10 posted on 01/07/2003 4:59:34 PM PST by crystalk
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To: yankeedame
I thought it was the Indians.
12 posted on 01/07/2003 4:59:50 PM PST by Shermy
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To: yankeedame
I found some Chinese food in the back of my fridge that looked to be pre-Columbian.
13 posted on 01/07/2003 5:00:48 PM PST by socal_parrot (I like Chinese...I like Chinese...They only come up to your knees...)
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To: yankeedame
Even if it's true, there's this little item: "Two years later, seven ships returned and the Ming emperor ordered them all to be dismantled, the sailors paid off and all records of the voyage destroyed. "

Being a discoverer is worthless if you bury all knowledge of what you have discovered. Columbus still deserves credit for discovering America, and opening the door for its use, dramatically changing human history.

14 posted on 01/07/2003 5:01:20 PM PST by Dan Day
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To: yankeedame
No no it was the Japanese.

They just weren't comfortable in wide open spaces, so they went back home.

Shouldn't the native American Indians get credit for discovering America. I mean, it's like they were already comfortable here when Columbus showed up.
15 posted on 01/07/2003 5:13:08 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
The way I heard it was that the great explorer Nobuti Sosumi hoped to finance the voyage with all the golf courses and Karaoke singing blondes this fabled land was said to possess. Returning empty-handed, his principle investor, a hot-headed shogun, beheaded him before his lawyers could file against him. His ghost is said to haunt the Tokyo pachinko parlors to this very day.
16 posted on 01/07/2003 5:21:14 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Commander8
Nope. Samaritan, or Jews from around the first Century.

The New Mexico Decalogue

The Ohio Decalogue
17 posted on 01/07/2003 5:24:52 PM PST by safisoft
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To: crystalk; blam
The book "Pale Ink," which was later published in paperback a few copies with the sensational title "Gods from the Far East..." says all of this better, a generation or two ago.

Good grief. I hadn't thought about that book in years. I still have a copy. Pale Ink by Henriette Mertz originally published in 1953. (Along about the time of the book "Worlds in Collision" by Immanuel Velikovsky)

Later sometime in the 70's it was published again with the Title: God's from the far east.
The second title was due to the popularity at that time of one Erich Von Däniken and his book: Chariots of the gods
After Von Däniken's success with his "gods" book(s), everybody "jumped on the old band wagon" with a "gods" title and that even brought back into print the long forgotten work of Velikovsky and others including Pale Ink with a "gods" title.

I had almost forgotten about all the Von Däniken inspired hullabaloo till you remined me

Take care
God Bless

18 posted on 01/07/2003 5:27:22 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Hooray! The tag line is Back! (Way To Go, John!))
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To: Scientia Est Potentia
Considering the ancient red headed mummies found in North China it is not absurd to think that these folks' relatives also joined the parade across the land bridge. Or led it, even.
19 posted on 01/07/2003 5:28:28 PM PST by arthurus
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To: yankeedame
So let me guess, China is now going to claim American territory like it does with Taiwan as belonging to us from antiquity.
20 posted on 01/07/2003 5:29:28 PM PST by Centurion2000
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