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Is Gavin Menzies Right or Wrong? (Did the Chinese discover the western hemisphere?)
History News Network ^ | March 10, 2003 | Timothy Furnish

Posted on 03/12/2003 8:30:30 AM PST by robowombat

Is Gavin Menzies Right or Wrong? By Timothy Furnish Mr. Furnish, Ph.D., is Assistant Professor, World History, Georgia Perimeter College.

Every college world history textbook discusses the early 15th c. CE Chinese naval expeditions, commissioned by the Ming Emperor Zhu Di and commanded by the legendary admiral Zheng He, that sailed as far as East Africa and the Red Sea. Indeed, one of the favorite themes of the history subgenre known as alternative history is: why didn't these Chinese flotillas beat the Portuguese and Spanish to the New World--and what if they had?

Gavin Menzies, a former British Royal Navy officer, argues in the bestseller 1421: The Year China Discovered America, that squadrons from Zheng He's fleets, between 1421 and 1423, did indeed get to the Americas first--as well as to Greenland, Antarctica, Australia and New Zealand. Unfortunately for supporters of this theory, he offers no proof, only a great deal of circumstantial evidence marred by questionable scholarship.

Menzies has no "smoking gun" that proves his theory-- because the xenophobic Confucian officials who advised the later Ming emperors destroyed all records of these sea voyages. So he relies upon three types of evidence. First, Menzies claims that Chinese maps from as early as 1428, allegedly showing parts of North and South America and some Atlantic islands, were used by European explorers (including Columbus) when they started their own voyages decades later. Second, he adduces allegedly tangible evidence of pre-Columbian contact between Asia and the Americas, such as: flora and fauna (maize, sweet potatoes, Asiatic chickens, coconuts) that must have been transported by humans; "DNA evidence" that links American Indians to the Chinese; wrecks of Chinese ships and medieval Chinese anchors found in California. Third, Menzies relies upon, and constantly reminds the reader of, his own naval expertise which gives him a mystical understanding that landlubbers lack; for example, "if I was able to state with confidence the course a Chinese fleet had taken, it was because...my own knowledge of the winds, currents, and sea conditions they faced told me the route as surely as if there had been a written record of it" (p. 83).

Authors that aim to rewrite 500 years of accepted history should rely less on subjective claims and more on hard evidence. And this is where Menzies ultimately fails to persuade. First, he does not read Chinese and thus cites no primary sources--a problem even if one accepts that the records were all destroyed. Even more fatal to his argument, Menzies often fails to provide corroborating data for many of his claims. To cite just four examples, he: never provides the DNA evidence supposedly linking the American Indians and Chinese; fails to document the discovery of Chinese anchors off the coast of California; appeals to unspecified "local experts," as when arguing that remains of 15th century Chinese shipwrecks have been found in New Zealand; and says that a Taiwanese museum's copy of a Chinese map allegedly showing Australia and Tasmania "unfortunately...has been lost." Questionable speculative leaps are also Menzies's stock-in-trade, as when claiming that the inscription on a stone column in the Cape Verde Islands (off Africa's western coast) is in Maylayam, a language of South India, and that this proves the Chinese were there. Yet why would a Chinese fleet admiral order a message inscribed in a language other than Chinese? And sometimes Menzies just plain contradicts himself, as when he asserts that "sea levels in 1421 were lower than today" (p. 257) because of modern global warming, but then later claims "Greenland was circumnavigable in 1421-2, for...the climate...was far warmer than it is today" (p. 306).

As I tell my college world history students, the most likely candidate for future world domination in1400 certainly would have been China, with its huge oceangoing ships backed up by a sophisticated, prosperous and powerful state. However, that did not come to pass. Even if Menzies were right about the Chinese discovery of the New World--and there are tantalizing aspects to his thesis, such as the strangely accurate pre-Columbian maps of parts of the Atlantic, as well as the biological evidence of pre-Columbian Old and New World contacts--that would not change the fact that it was the Europeans who colonized the new lands and came to dominate the globe. Ultimately, however, Menzies's presentation in 1421 is much like that delivered at the United Nations recently by Secretary of State Powell regarding Iraqi weapons of mass destruction: convincing only to true believers and leaving others at best, in the words of the old hymn, "almost persuaded."

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This article first appeared in the Atlanta Journal Constitution


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 1421; ancientnavigation; china; gavinmenzies; godsgravesglyphs; lasiodermaserricorne; navigation; tobaccobeetle

1 posted on 03/12/2003 8:30:30 AM PST by robowombat
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To: robowombat
Is Gavin Menzies Right or Wrong? (Did the Chinese discover the western hemisphere?)

Who cares? It's not like history would change if one was correct and the other not. Their correctness or lack thereof is unimportant.

2 posted on 03/12/2003 8:37:05 AM PST by jimkress
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To: robowombat
If the Chinese discovered North America, why did they leave?
3 posted on 03/12/2003 8:39:54 AM PST by SunStar (Democrats Piss Me Off !!)
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4 posted on 03/12/2003 8:43:43 AM PST by Bohemund
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To: robowombat
...tantalizing aspects to his thesis, such as the strangely accurate pre-Columbian maps of parts of the Atlantic, as well as the biological evidence of pre-Columbian Old and New World contacts--that would not change the fact that it was the Europeans who colonized the new lands and came to dominate the globe.

From various documentaries on Columbus on Discovery, PBS and Fox, it was presented as not uncommon for fleets of ships to exchange and copy maps amonst themselves. Likewise, it would not be difficult to accept that various animals made the trek from Asia to other areas over a course of several decades, or centuries, circumstances outside of a single ship 'discovering' a new continent. It's an interesting idea, but without proof ...

5 posted on 03/12/2003 8:43:53 AM PST by Hodar (American's first. .... help the others, after we have helped our own.)
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To: SunStar
Ming Dynasty was looking for new trading partners. Northern Asia was still under Mongolian/Tartar rule thus the traditional silk routes to Persia and Middle East was cut off. Their expeditions were expensive and the civilizations they met not sufficiently advanced for economical trade (East Africa, Maladascgar, South Africa). If they found North America, they would conclude the same about the natives that inhabit it. Amongst the Chinese historians, there have been rumors that there were expeditions that traveled up to the Bering Sea and followed the coastline from Alaska down to California coast. Without historical records and logs, hard to prove.
6 posted on 03/12/2003 8:55:07 AM PST by Fee
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To: robowombat
The Vikings beat them here anyway and they did leave archeological evidence.
7 posted on 03/12/2003 9:33:37 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: jimkress
Who cares? It's not like history would change if one was correct and the other not. Their correctness or lack thereof is unimportant.

Ditto, however one view denigrates the WASP's

8 posted on 03/12/2003 10:37:41 AM PST by itsahoot
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To: Fee
After reading the book...and spending a lot of time thinking about it....Menzie presents a good case, but no absolute proof. If he could match the DNA of the Chinese type chickens in South America back to China....if he could dig around the Bimini rock formation and find any teak wood...if he could find any DNA from bodies buried in Peru or Mexico that matched to Chinese heritage...if and if and if.

He needs one absolute bit of evidence to open up the discussion and get more involvement of the historical community. I will admit that the map evidence (because I too am a map lover) is an awful lot...but its not positive or absolute. It is very strange how Columbus felt so sure of his ability to find the 'other' coast and the Spanish were willing to fund his adventure. I don't think any of them would have done that unless there was already a map in existence...and then that brings up the question who had the map and did they acquire it?

As for the Ming Dynasty...there is no doubt that they could have crossed the Pacific and could have desired a global market. They did have the expertise to make the crossing. One can only wonder what would have occurred had they made the crossing, and continued their exploration of the world. The American western coast would have been settled by China and would have been a major colony by the 1600s. With the major desire of China being business...rather than raping and pillaging like the Spaniards did...one would have to wonder what would have happened in the American lands if the Chinese had been first. They might have actually fought off the Spaniards and the British and neither would have ever settled in the west. It makes one look at past and wonder what could have been...
9 posted on 03/12/2003 10:58:56 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: robowombat
Curious. If Columbus was using Chinese maps showing North America, why was he attempting to sail to the orient by going due west?
10 posted on 03/12/2003 11:09:50 AM PST by sharktrager
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To: robowombat
In the continuing series of rewriting history to exclude white Europeans, the author fails to mention one thing - when Columbus "discovered" America, it stayed discovered.

Nobody else had to come along and re-discover it later.

11 posted on 03/12/2003 11:29:11 AM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: T. P. Pole
In the continuing series of rewriting history to exclude white Europeans, the author fails to mention one thing - when Columbus "discovered" America, it stayed discovered. Nobody else had to come along and re-discover it later.

Yes. However, he had a huge advantage. The invention of the printing press by Johannes Gutenberg in 1450. There is evidence of other European explorers before him, but when everything had to be scribed by hand, there was limited circulation of the information. The discovery of Columbus was publicized.

12 posted on 03/12/2003 12:03:38 PM PST by dark_lord
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