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Posted on 08/28/2005 9:35:34 AM PDT by NautiNurse
Extremely dangerous Hurricane Katrina is bearing down on the North Central Gulf of Mexico. Mandatory evacuation of New Orleans is finally underway. Louisiana officials are warning of complete failure to levy systems, and pleading with people to leave low lying areas. For those who choose to stay, they are recommending picks and axes for breaking through to access their roofs during flooding.
Due to the size and intensity of this storm, all interests in the North Gulf of Mexico should be rushing hurricane preparations to completion.
The following links are self-updating:
Public Advisory Currently published every 3 hours 5A, 8A, 11A, 2P, etc. ET
NHC Discussion Published every six hours 6A, 11A, 6P, 11P
Three Day Forecast Track
Five Day Forecast Track
Navy Storm Track
Katrina Track Forecast Archive Nice loop of each NHC forecast track for both three and five day
Forecast Models
Alternate Hurricane Models via Skeetobite
Bouy Data Louisiana/Mississippi
Buoy Data Florida
Images:
New Orleans/Baton Rouge Experimental Radar Subject to delays and outages - and well worth the wait
Ft. Polk, LA Long Range Radar Loop
Northwest Florida Long Range Radar
Storm Floater IR Loop
Storm Floater Still & Loop Options
Color Enhanced IR Loop
Other Resources:
Hurricane Wind Risk Very informative tables showing inland wind potential by hurricane strength and forward motion
Central Florida Hurricane Center
New Orleans Web Cams Loads of web cam sites here. The sites have been very slow due to high traffic
New Orleans Music Online Couldn't resist--love that jazz
Golden Triangle Weather Page Nice Beaumont weather site with lots of tracks and graphics
Hurricane City
Crown Weather Tropical Website Offers a variety of storm info, with some nice track graphics
Live streaming:
copy/paste into player:
http://www.wjbo.com - BR radio station. Callers calling in and describing traffic etc.
WWL-TV/DT New Orleans (WMP) - mms://beloint.wm.llnwd.net/beloint_wwltv
WVTM-TV/DT Birmingham (WMP) - mms://a1256.l1289835255.c12898.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1256/12898/v0001/reflector:35255
WDSU-TV/DT New Orleans (WMP) - http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38202.asx
Hurricane City (Real Player) - http://hurricanecity.com/live.ram
ABCNews Now (Real Player) - http://reallive.stream.aol.com/ramgen/redundant/abc/now_hi.rm
WKRG-TV/DT Mobile (WMP) - mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12
| Category | Wind Speed | Barometric Pressure | Storm Surge | Damage Potential |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tropical Depression |
< 39 mph < 34 kts |
Minimal | ||
| Tropical Storm |
39 - 73 mph 34 - 63 kts |
Minimal | ||
| Hurricane 1 (Weak) |
74 - 95 mph 64 - 82 kts |
28.94" or more 980.02 mb or more |
4.0' - 5.0' 1.2 m - 1.5 m |
Minimal damage to vegetation |
| Hurricane 2 (Moderate) |
96 - 110 mph 83 - 95 kts |
28.50" - 28.93" 965.12 mb - 979.68 mb |
6.0' - 8.0' 1.8 m - 2.4 m |
Moderate damage to houses |
| Hurricane 3 (Strong) |
111 - 130 mph 96 - 112 kts |
27.91" - 28.49" 945.14 mb - 964.78 mb |
9.0' - 12.0' 2.7 m - 3.7 m |
Extensive damage to small buildings |
| Hurricane 4 (Very strong) |
131 - 155 mph 113 - 135 kts |
27.17" - 27.90" 920.08 mb - 944.80 mb |
13.0' - 18.0' 3.9 m - 5.5 m |
Extreme structural damage |
| Hurricane 5 (Devastating) |
Greater than 155 mph Greater than 135 kts |
Less than 27.17" Less than 920.08 mb |
Greater than 18.0' Greater than 5.5m |
Catastrophic building failures possible |
Red Cross just sent out a memo saying that this could be the biggest hurricane disaster that they have ever had to respond to.
This is one scary looking storm...
~shudder~
Katrina is ranked #4 in all history.
The west side WILL get damage. It IS a Cat 5, after all. But, yes, the damage on the west side will be much less than the east.
That's what I heard they did do - now it's back to traffic both ways.
To say nothing of what it will be like once electricity goes out, A/C stops running, will plumbing be able to handle all those people for an extended period? Not where I would want to be.
I've said it before, but last time there was a mandatory evacuation in Savannah, they used school buses to take elderly and those without transportation to school gyms about 150 miles west.
I don't know why in the world they didn't begin doing that in N.O. yesterday.
I'm late getting on the thread, but been watching the TV a bit, and just eyeballing it, I am wondering if the Models may be off slightly, they already have shifted the track to the west some.
Very sobering assessment here:
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000006&sid=aF9SxgEvDm.Y&refer=home
Wind is too strong for C5-A's or -Bs to get in and out.
That said, with NO being a major commerce center, why isn't everyone remaining being loaded on buses, taken to the nearest train terminal, loaded on the next train and hauled out? The trains don't have to stop for road crossings and I'd bet the rail system isn't real busy right now.
As the Indians and Pakistanis have demonstrated, you can load thousands of people on a train - even ones that are only boxcars and flatbeds.
It could get really ugly. A lot of people keep saying God help them but that is about all we can do at this point.
God help them.
Because of the cuvature of the exterior, any lateral energy winds will be transferred verticaly literally taking the roof off. You heard it here first. They are being evacuated into a death trap IMHO.
That's what I was thinking. Who has that photo of it? Any engineer types who are reading this care to opine?
The amazing thing is, had it not been for that Hurricane, Galveston would probably have grown into the metropolis that Houston ultimately did.
Correct; Plaquemines is getting hit now along with southern Jeffeson; as the hurricane tracks north Orleans and northern Jefferson get hit along with St. Bernard, which is on the northeast side of Plaquemines (St. B. abuts the Gulf on its' eastern side, northern side and southeast side).
Per WWL---
Officials are planning ways to collect and store bodies; will be a long time getting back to normal;expecting severe structual damage to buildings, etc. The goal of officials now is to see that people LIVE TO SEE TUESDAY.
Mark for the facts!
At this point, you can't possibly get 20-30 thousand people from downtown to an airport -- much less get enough planes in and out in the next 6 hours or so. That option was probably off the table 2 days ago.
During WWII Londoners sent their children sans parents to safety in the countryside. With time so short surely Dome's guards would let the children standing in lines outside the SuperDome go inside right away. As a parent myself, I know their parents would hate to be separated from their children, but if it is a question of the children's survival, surely some of the parents might think differently about that separation, don't you think?
Probably what is taking so long is it is post 9-11 and if a loonie terrorist got in there it could be like 10 or 15 9-11's. Then there are the people that have to scrutinize the people and make sure they don't bring in drugs, alcohol, etc. If these are City or County or State Workers they want to be home with their families instead of at ground zero.
And a great song by Glen Campbell.
HTML fu is weak, but I think the 32mb drop -- if it happened within the last six hours -- would meet the criteria for "explosive deepening".
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