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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: fabian
Romney is no abortionist


4,841 posted on 08/17/2012 7:12:28 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: BlackElk

Why I’m the heck aren’t you in office, for crying out loud? Catholic to boot! (As in a faithful, devout, practicing, pious Catholic, of which the voters have never experienced in public office.

Guess that might explain why you are not I’m office. Our loss.

Thx very, for the ping.


4,842 posted on 08/17/2012 7:13:28 PM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: sf4dubya
YOU made this thread about religion and wanted THIS POLITICAL THREAD - the reasons Jim and others will NOT vote for Romney - the godless LIBERAL MORMAN - moved to the religion forum.

How many times does this need to be said to YOU? You can't believe your own actions, so you DENY them?

4,843 posted on 08/17/2012 7:14:22 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: fabian

Horse hockey. Reagan didn’t go around around for thirty plus years advocating that abortion should be safe and legal in America or that Roe v Wade should be sustained and supported as settled law. Or that he would be better for homosexual rights than Ted Kennedy. And we definitely know that he was polar opposite to the liberal progressive Mitt Romney on compulsory health insurance. Reagan warned us that that would be the way socialists would take over America. Look out America, here it comes. Brought to you courtesy, Mitt Romney.

Obama on socialized healthcare: “I agree with... Mitt Romney.”

Reagan on compulsory health insurance (socialist RomneyCare/ObamaCare):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs


4,845 posted on 08/17/2012 7:15:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: BlackElk

Oops. Cell phone spelling!

I’m - “in”


4,846 posted on 08/17/2012 7:16:47 PM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: sf4dubya; Elsie
I got myself this tattoo today to encourage you folks to hurry up and get this thread to 5,000 ASAP. Thank you.


4,847 posted on 08/17/2012 7:18:16 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: sf4dubya

Why ya think Jan Brewer is defying the EO?
________________________________________

Thats because she doesnt agree with your boy Wee Willie on illegasl aliens...

Willie wants them to have mandated AMNESTY...

Jan doesnt...

Willard is a “its the law of the land, we mustest mucjk with it” lying liberal...

He doesnt care that Roe V Wade and the DREASM Act/AMNESTy Bill are not constitutional...

They mustnt be touched because he wants it that way...

he just is POed that he didnt get to EO them like he did same sex marriafe in MASS...

He got to sign 189 “marriage” licences for Partner A and Partner B in 2005 for his good homosexual buddies...

WOW

What power...

what deviancy...

What a despot...


4,848 posted on 08/17/2012 7:21:20 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Revolting cat!

WOW

those hands have never chopped wood...


4,849 posted on 08/17/2012 7:23:17 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: fabian
you could also transpose Reagan there as Reagan

NO we couldn't, we aren't LIARS. Romney has abortion right in his own romneycare which he praises! And that wasn't enough evil - he initiated same sex marriage in MA and, personally, married some homos!

KEEP IT HONEST and keep Reagan OUT of such filth - how dare you bring a Godly man, a conservative Patriot down that low - just to suit your agenda!

4,850 posted on 08/17/2012 7:23:33 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Kevmo

Thanks. I will look at all my options.


4,852 posted on 08/17/2012 7:25:44 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: sf4dubya

I dont...


4,853 posted on 08/17/2012 7:25:53 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Revolting cat!

Will you be sending in $5,000 to the freepathon when this thread reaches 5,000?


4,854 posted on 08/17/2012 7:27:56 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: fabian
you could also transpose Reagan there as Reagan was pro choice also and switched! Yet you will not give Romney that same grace that you have given Reagan.

That is a bald faced lie, Reagan was never pro-choice.

Find the speech, the paper, the campaigning, find any with Reagan saying that he was pro-abortion, what you will find is his despair when he saw what that 1967 bill was turned into.

4,856 posted on 08/17/2012 7:30:36 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Jim Robinson

no, it is not false...Romney was simply more deceived than Reagan was at one time. So for that you still call him an abortionist which is a lie!

By Sarah B. Boxer Topics Campaign 2012
Republican presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, speaks at a town hall meeting in Kalamazoo, Mich., Friday, Feb. 24, 2012. (Credit: AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)
KALAMAZOO, Mich. - Rolling out a new line of defense of his flip flop on abortion rights, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney said Friday that conservative icon Ronald Reagan underwent a similar ideological transformation on the issue.

At a town hall meeting at Western Michigan University, a woman in the audience asked Romney why “we should regard you as a man of high standards and integrity when you have flip flopped on your position regarding the sanctity of life?” Romney replied that Reagan was “pro-choice before he became pro-life,” and named other Republican figures who he said had similar experiences on the issue, including former President Ge orge H.W. Bush and the late former Rep. Henry Hyde of Illinois, who went on to become a leader in the effort to stop the expansion of abortion rights in Congress.

“We need people who recognize that pro-life is the way to go, and we’re getting more and more people joining our cause as time goes on,” Romney said.

Romney also addressed a recurring issue about whether abortions were forced on Catholic hospitals under the health care law he signed as governor of Massachusetts. “A court in our state decided that anyone who was receiving subsidized care was entitled to abortion on a very inexpensive basis. That was decided before our law was passed, that had nothing to do with our law whatsoever,” he said.

He said that during his tenure as president, he would stop funding for Planned Parenthood, and took a swipe at rival Rick Santorum, a former U.S. senator from Pennsylvania, who he said voted for bills to fund the organization while he was in Congress. “I’m a pro-life person and I’ll be a pro-life president,” Romney said.


4,857 posted on 08/17/2012 7:32:13 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: sf4dubya
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4,859 posted on 08/17/2012 7:34:07 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: BlackElk

You can only counter with pure obscurantist pedantry.


4,860 posted on 08/17/2012 7:34:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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