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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: Ron H.

Romney is not “equally evil” to Obama. You can sit out if you want but if Obama wins a second term you can kiss this nation goodbye.


701 posted on 08/11/2012 9:35:48 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Resettozero

“You post like a Romneybot.”

What an idiotic comment. Do a search of my comments. I am certainly no “Romneybot!” You are clueless!


702 posted on 08/11/2012 9:36:33 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m well acquainted with Romney’ liberal record and have seen that Youtube video, Jim, yet, I would still rather have Romney in the White House, than that Marxist/Socialist/Communist/Muslim, illegal alien, thug!

Again, I will ask you... Should everyone get rid of their cars, because the oil used to run them, enriches nations of America-hating, Allah-worshiping, terrorists? Because that is exactly what driving a car is supporting. So which is worse, voting for Mitt Romney or funding terrorist activities?

To me and my family, Barack Obama and his lawless administration is far more dangerous than a Mormon RINO and a conservative Catholic.


703 posted on 08/11/2012 9:36:41 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: CWSNTEXAS

Thank you for a wonderful post.

Too bad it sailed above the level of comprehension of some here.

Choosing whether to vote for Romney or not will pale in comparison to the moral choices that will have to be made by every American if Obama is re-elected.


704 posted on 08/11/2012 9:36:41 PM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: SoCalTransplant
So by that then do we say that its wrong to object to paying taxes, because the jews were being unjustly taxed and Jesus said to pay it?

It's wrong to pull a Snipes and not pay the taxes required by law. But there's absolutely nothing wrong with asking for the tax laws to be changed.

705 posted on 08/11/2012 9:37:14 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Resettozero; pops88

Not the first time I’ve been accused of too many words...prob not the last either. But I do try to at least keep them civil, and I appreciate you and Pops doing so as well. Men of good will can disagree.

And I dont object to someone trumping anything with personal convictions. I do have issue with saying God will some day make bench rulings based on voting for or against a particular candidate. But by all means, as I’ve said on FR before, if you really feel that you shouldn’t vote for someone then don’t...I’d never call anyone a name or criticize for that.


706 posted on 08/11/2012 9:37:19 PM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Honey badger's level of concern is negligible.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I will not buy your lie. But neither will I engage in a pointless exercise.

What lie? You asserted that Romney had "socked" it to Obama, and I asked you to prove it. You didn't, and now you're calling me a liar?

707 posted on 08/11/2012 9:37:42 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: re_nortex
"In Obama's America, being called a bigot, a racist and homophobe is a badge of honor."

ding, Ding DING! We have a winner!

I couldn't agree with JimRob more. I refuse to vote for Bishop Willard from the planet Kolob.

A choice between Beelezebub and Mephistopholes is no choice at all!

709 posted on 08/11/2012 9:38:16 PM PDT by Mormon Cricket
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To: JediJones

I’m going to give you about 1000 cool points for using the phrase “pull a Snipes”.


710 posted on 08/11/2012 9:38:58 PM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Honey badger's level of concern is negligible.)
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To: Timber Rattler

The truth value of your assertion remains unchanged, at false. I am not bothered at your rejection of truth because the truth has made me free.


711 posted on 08/11/2012 9:39:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: arasina

LOL !!!


712 posted on 08/11/2012 9:39:30 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

Your response does not compute with me at this hour. So, I concede that I don’t know what you’re trying to say to me. But you win.


713 posted on 08/11/2012 9:39:47 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No premise needs to examined - you are only looking for a way to support EVIL and not be accountable for it!

If he doesn’t have the same teachings as God’s Word, you welcome him/vote for him _ you SHARE in his wicked deeds.

Same sex marriage and abortion ARE WICKED DEEDS that you SHARE the consequences in. See how deception/satan/mitt reigns THE WEAK in?


714 posted on 08/11/2012 9:39:58 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Resettozero

I just want someone to explain to me in great detail when supporting homosexuality, abortion and the rest of it became the litmus test for being a ‘good christian’.

Because a vote cast to elect a person espousing those things gives that person power to enable more of it. They can lie to themselves about what they are doing, they can rationalize what they re doing, but it is still ‘what they are doing’.

All I can say is ‘Good luck getting God to accept what you’re doing’. Because it flies in the face of the entire Bible.


715 posted on 08/11/2012 9:39:58 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Sola Veritas
‘A conservative GOP congress will hold Obama in check,’

How? They haven't so far. They haven't prevented him from spending one dime less, changing one less law, or executing one less Executive Order. EO’s ARE LAWS, Regulations of the IRS & EPA Hold the power of LAW. They can only be undone by a vote of the House and Senate AND a signature of the POTUS, or by another president.

716 posted on 08/11/2012 9:40:56 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The truth value of your assertion remains unchanged, at false. I am not bothered at your rejection of truth because the truth has made me free.

What truth? You have yet to provide any evidence at all that Romney has actually "socked" it to Obama. If anyone is having an issue with truth, I think that it must be you.

717 posted on 08/11/2012 9:41:44 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: CWSNTEXAS

EXCELLENT post and may I humbly suggest that you write a memoir detailing what you have outlined here. You are a great writer and it would also be a blessing to memorialize the suffering and redemption (through surviving and having a loving family) that your father went through. God bless you.


718 posted on 08/11/2012 9:41:44 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If one has an iota of personal integrity and believes in right and wrong, one should vote accordingly. If one thinks enabling Mitt’s record with their vote is somehow ‘conservative’ then they are self-deluding fools.

That simple.


719 posted on 08/11/2012 9:42:17 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: nicmarlo
I can guarantee you, based upon historical elections, a third party candidate will NOT be elected to the White House.

I would gladly consider a third party candidate if he or she makes it into the debates. If he or she doesn't, then they have no chance. Voting for one if they don't make it into the debates is either a protest vote, a wasted vote, or half a vote for the greater of two evils.

720 posted on 08/11/2012 9:42:32 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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