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Move over Christopher Columbus, Admiral Zheng He is here
CFP ^ | March 11, 2005 | Judi McLeod

Posted on 03/11/2005 8:19:24 AM PST by MikeEdwards

That’s the day when the United Nations will begin trying to convince the world that Christopher Columbus did not discover North America, a Chinese-Muslim explorer discovered us a half century before C.C.

No, this is not science fiction. It is today’s cover story in Canada Free Press.

That the Canadian government has been selling off our natural resources, including the Alberta tar sands to the Chinese government ought to be worry enough for any with the sovereignty of our nation in mind.

Now we have a yet to be identified "respected Canadian architect" headed to the United Nations to tell the tale of a lost Chinese city found on the Atlantic Coast of North America.

This is a story that goes far beyond the romance of archeology and lost cities. This is a story that will put wings on a dream to convince the world that the Chinese arrived in the New World some 70 years before Christopher Columbus.

It is the beginning of a tale that could rewrite history and change the course of the world as we know it.

Gavin Menzies, a former British Navy submarine commander and author of the controversial best-selling book, 1421: The Year China Discovered the World, got the ball

The author, through a Canadian architect, has discovered what is believed to be the centuries lost naval base of China’s most famous explorer.

Opening chapters begin with a revelation made by Menzies to an accommodating Malaysian newspaper. With the credibility of a former British Navy submarine commander and the status of being a published author, Menzies had no trouble attracting media attention.

With the United Nations in on the act, the classroom childrens’ chant …"In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue," will be purged from history texts and ceremoniously drowned. . . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 1421; 1492; ageofsail; american; ancientnavigation; china; columbus; columbusday; discovery; gavinmenzies; godsgravesglyphs; navigation; north
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1 posted on 03/11/2005 8:19:25 AM PST by MikeEdwards
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To: MikeEdwards

China has long considered Canada a breakaway province and has threatened military action should independence be declared. 8-)


2 posted on 03/11/2005 8:23:18 AM PST by etcetera (No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom, unless he be vigilant in its preservation.)
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To: MikeEdwards

I still maintain, how can you "discover" a place that has inhabitants? Methinks some group of nomadic Mongols discovered North American many centuries before either one of these guys on a landbridge through the Bering Sea.


3 posted on 03/11/2005 8:26:16 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: MikeEdwards

Who cares, apparently the Chinese didn't find it good enough to come back. Leif Erikson was here too in 1000 AD and that really doesn't matter either. People actually came back after Columbus.


4 posted on 03/11/2005 8:26:42 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: MikeEdwards

Huh, So what...


5 posted on 03/11/2005 8:27:45 AM PST by An Old Marine (Freedom isn't Free)
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To: MikeEdwards
I have read 1421: The Year China Discovered the World and he did not say that Zheng He discovered North America, he did speculate that another admiral might have. He offered some evidence, but it was not anything that is too convincing, mostly pottery and weaving styles found in South America that were similar to those found in China.
6 posted on 03/11/2005 8:27:53 AM PST by Sthitch
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
I still maintain, how can you "discover" a place that has inhabitants?

Because those who were there didn't know where they were. They had no maps and no conception of the outside world. It's not a mere matter of existence.

7 posted on 03/11/2005 8:31:22 AM PST by AmishDude (The Clown Prince-in-a-can of Free Republic!)
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To: MikeEdwards

What about the Phoenicians?

http://phoenicia.org/brazil.html


8 posted on 03/11/2005 8:31:42 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: bahblahbah
Who cares, apparently the Chinese didn't find it good enough to come back. Leif Erikson was here too in 1000 AD and that really doesn't matter either. People actually came back after Columbus.

And the Irish were probably here around 800 AD. As you said, Columbus made something of it the others are interesting historical footnotes.

9 posted on 03/11/2005 8:31:57 AM PST by An Old Marine (Freedom isn't Free)
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To: MikeEdwards
Hillarity put me in touch with Christopher Columbus and he told me that he is unconcerned about this.

Seems he is off on new explorations in the galaxy, where he is being paid a hefty stipend by the representatives of the astronauts that planted the flag on Mars.

10 posted on 03/11/2005 8:44:20 AM PST by G.Mason ("I have never killed a man but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure" - Clarence Darrow)
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To: bahblahbah
Since the Indians have dna from Asian and European ancestors, it doesn't really matter who came here third. Columbus started the colonization process and that is what really matters.
11 posted on 03/11/2005 8:44:58 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: AmishDude
Because those who were there didn't know where they were

Heh. Columbus didn't know where he was either.

12 posted on 03/11/2005 8:45:36 AM PST by gdani
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To: gdani

Indeed, but at least he remembered the way to get there!


13 posted on 03/11/2005 8:47:11 AM PST by AmishDude (The Clown Prince-in-a-can of Free Republic!)
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To: satchmodog9

Absolutely. Colonization and discovery are 2 very different things.


14 posted on 03/11/2005 8:49:28 AM PST by dmz
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To: An Old Marine

I also recall reading somewhere that English and Irish fishermen were regularily visiting the Grand Banks off of Nova Scotia and New England prior to 1492 and were certainly aware of the land mass just beyond the fishing grounds to the west. However, they kept that secret to themselves because, well, they're fishermen...

However, what does that matter? Phonecian, Irish, Scandinavian, Chinese exploration fleets, fishermen, may have all visited portions of the Western Hemisphere. They came, they saw, they didn't do much about it.

It was only after Colombus that permanent contact was established between the Western Hemisphere and Europe (and the rest of the world later on).

BTW, Semper Fi!


15 posted on 03/11/2005 8:51:10 AM PST by Captain Rhino ("If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense to you!")
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To: MikeEdwards
It has massive walls…and it’s two-thirds the size of the Forbidden City…Walls, roads, the remains of foundations, graves, God-knows what.

And it's invisible.

Wonder if he found their Pacific Fleet base yet?

16 posted on 03/11/2005 8:54:39 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: MikeEdwards


You know this is a load of BS.

The Article said Zheng He was 8 foot tall.

He's Chinese. Ever see an 8 foot Tall Chinaman? Even Yao is only 7'6".



17 posted on 03/11/2005 9:01:26 AM PST by Malsua
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To: MikeEdwards

No one ever had to discover America again after Columbus discovered it.


18 posted on 03/11/2005 9:01:29 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: MikeEdwards
An interesting article. I can't wait until they reveal this City to the public.
19 posted on 03/11/2005 9:03:08 AM PST by BBell
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To: etcetera

China has 800 missiles pointed at Taiwan. How many DF-41's will be pointed at Canada? Too bad they don't want anything to do with our NMD. Chun Hi HO.


20 posted on 03/11/2005 9:04:33 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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