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1 posted on 03/29/2006 2:00:02 AM PST by Bob Haran
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exactly. we need to enforce the laws in palce. they shouldn't be hiring illegals in the first place.. jobs dry up for the illegals and they'll move somewhere else


2 posted on 03/29/2006 2:03:38 AM PST by Cinnamon
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For years I’ve been saying we should use the RICO law on criminal employers. Under RICO the government can confiscate the personal assets of the board, the officers and the executives, including their homes, cars and retirement accounts.

If the government impoverishes 30 or 40 corporate big wigs, companies would be firing illegals faster than they hired them. Many of them would then go back where they belong. If we cut off tax paid services to illegals, the rest would go home too.

What we need is an administration that enforces the law. The problem would be solved


4 posted on 03/29/2006 2:14:47 AM PST by SUSSA
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Let not stop there, lets go after the landlord's who rent homes/apartments/coyote safe houses to them.
5 posted on 03/29/2006 2:16:43 AM PST by Pro-Bush (One sees great things from the valley, only small things from the peak.)
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Until we all write our congressmen and tell them that if they don't treat this like the crime it really is they are fired this will get know where.


6 posted on 03/29/2006 2:18:30 AM PST by Racer1
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That is the only way to stop the illegals. Don't just sslap their wrists, put illegal hirers in jail and the illegal stampede will dry to a trickle.


7 posted on 03/29/2006 2:20:59 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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Lets go after those that profit off illegal alien votes...
Make it mandatory to show proof of citizenship at the polls when you vote and then lets see what happens.
11 posted on 03/29/2006 2:28:24 AM PST by Echo Talon
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Make the employers first offense a very stiff fine, the second offense a felony with a extremely stiff fine and jail time. Amen,


12 posted on 03/29/2006 2:33:22 AM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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Sounds like a good idea, but knowing how our court system operates the people who get prosecuted for hiring illegals won't be the people who hire dozens of illegals (like the wine industry and hotel industry). The people who get charged will be those who have an illegal watch their kid three days a week so they can go to work.

I'm not saying that people who have a landscaper or a janitor who come in a couple days a week or month are doing the right thing, but if Mr & Mrs Jones is going to be prosecuted for having an illegal do their laundry, then for damn sure Gallo Winery better be prosecuted for having thousands of illegals
picking their grapes....


13 posted on 03/29/2006 2:42:05 AM PST by freebilly
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If this were practical it would have been attempted a long time ago. Unfortunately too many big campaign contributors can afford these contributions because they pay such low wages to illegals.

Would you slap the hand that fed you?

It's all about money.

14 posted on 03/29/2006 2:42:55 AM PST by manwiththehands (Islam is as Islam does. Islam is as Islam allows.)
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Here, here! Per my earlier post: "FREEPER Discussion - Immigration Reform (H.R.1447) - Mandatory Employment Verification"
18 posted on 03/29/2006 2:52:02 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Of course, what are there 10 million illegals or so. And while we are jailing them and their employers and their landlords, we might as well jail people who sell stuff to them. That way we might be up to 70-100 million people we need to jail. It makes perfect sense to me.....


20 posted on 03/29/2006 3:07:15 AM PST by Always Right
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I agree. If the Left is so upset about turning "poor undocumented" immigrants into felons and putting them in jail, surely they won't object to us imprisoning some greedy capitalists instead. That should help to stem the problem and make the Marxists happy at the same time.


21 posted on 03/29/2006 3:09:57 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (No coded message in my tagline)
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I like Rush's take on Congress not being able to enforce immigration laws, so therefore ignoring them. Which laws can WE ignore - IRS??? If 12 million of us decided to ignore tax law, would they be able to enforce it?


29 posted on 03/29/2006 3:44:39 AM PST by mathluv (Bushbot, Snowflake, Dittohead ---- Bring it on!!!)
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Deport every one of them and their obnoxious, disrespectful kids, place the National Guard on the border armed with orders to shoot to kill anyone not obeying their orders to stop, anyone still here make it a felony to be here UNDOCUMENTED and fine the employers who try to employ them illegally and who try to pay below minimum wage.

And do it NOW!! Those are my demands as a American taxpaying Citizen!!

Let's not play with those that would sell us out in Washington who import poverty so we taxpayers can support them. If Washington wants to import poverty make them pay out of their income!!!!! Not US!! We didnt ask for the welfare bums to be imported make every employer and every politician starting with the President to pay and support the UNDOCUMENTED bums and their punks and dont make us do it!!


32 posted on 03/29/2006 3:45:35 AM PST by stopem (Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
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I think there is something else which is influencing our non-enforcement of the immigration laws: oil imports. If you look at the top 15 countries exporting oil to the U.S., Mexico is second (1.701 mbd) right behind Canada at 1.768 mbd. Could it be a fear of losing this oil?


37 posted on 03/29/2006 3:48:15 AM PST by anoldafvet
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Exactly right! I've said this many times. There should be a one year mandatory minimum sentence for anyone who employs an illegal.

And, Congress should also make it a federal crime to provide taxpayer-funded services to illegals, except medical service in life-threatening situations.

There are two main reasons illegals come here. Employment, and taxpayer-funded social benefits like medical care and education. Dry up those two wells and we won't have to worry about the cost of deporting illegals...the illegals will leave on their own.

Right now, the problem of illegals is just that...a problem. In ten to fifteen years the problem of illegals will be a national economic and crime disaster.
38 posted on 03/29/2006 3:50:28 AM PST by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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I honestly do not mean to introduce a new topic, confuse the issue on this one, OR irritate any of my fellow conservatives on this immigration issue -- but there is this...


The War on Illegals has no more chance of success than the War On Drugs, and for exactly the same two reasons.
[1] The suppliers {illegals} have lots of reason to continue.
[2] The users {employers} have lots of reason to continue.

Add to that the fact that for all the current disturbance and emotional upheaval, it really is NOT among the biggest problems the country faces.


43 posted on 03/29/2006 3:59:14 AM PST by 9999lakes
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Again I say, our politicians aren't going to do squat.


53 posted on 03/29/2006 4:11:35 AM PST by JamesA
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Marking.


80 posted on 03/29/2006 4:34:30 AM PST by TAdams8591
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Why not target our elected officials who have chosen to look the other way for so long?


86 posted on 03/29/2006 4:38:52 AM PST by WhiteGuy ("Every Generation needs a new revolution" - Jefferson)
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