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Republic of Utica ^ | 2/8/2008 | Cato Uticensis

Posted on 02/08/2008 9:56:11 AM PST by Cato Uticensis

Current mood: determined

So it's John McCain. OK.

The Republic of Utica will support John McCain and here's why-

I am NOT just thinking that someone with an "R" after my name be good and "D" be bad. That WOULD be dopey.

But, Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh, though I adore you both, it's equally dopey to say there isn't any difference between Hillary and McCain.

Let us remember the history of both McCain and Hillary, where each came from. Hillary came from that radical culture of the '60s that wanted to "bring the war home and kill our parents." In 1969, when the Manson Family killed Sharon Tate, a woman eight months pregnant, the SDS, a radical group that Hillary had some ties with, made guerilla theater celebrating this act, right down one of the women sticking her fork in Tate's pregnant belly and saying to Charlie, "look what I did for you." The SDS gave a three fingered "fork salute" to each other in remembrance of this act. The reason hippies like Hillary so loved Charles Manson was his violence in murdering of two middle class everyday American families. They dreamed of doing likewise on a grand scale.

Compare this with McCain, an honorably serving Navy Pilot who was a prisoner of war in North Vietnam. Pilots like McCain shot down early in the war were told of the acts of traitors like Hillary and John Kerry by the North Vietnamese (John McCain as a POW was treated to John Kerry's perjured, high-nasal "fashion reminiscent of Jhenjis Khan" speech) but they did not believe that Americans would act this way. They thought the North Vietnamese were making it up! How disappointing it must have been for them in 1973 to have discovered otherwise!

The three pillars of Reagan Conservatism are strong defense, Fiscal Conservatism and Social Conservatism. In the first John McCain gets 100%, A+. Of any candidate of either Party, he is, in fact, the best candidate for Commander-in-Chief of our military that we have running. After four years of being led by John McCain, we can reasonably expect our military to be strong and have high morale. They will be well taken care of. As veteran of the Clinton-era military, I remember how low morale was under the Slick One. We were short-handed and sick of being run by Political Correctness. As Commander-in-Chief, Hillary would make Bill look like Reagan. Her hatred for our soldiers runs very deep, and we can count on our military being in a complete shambles after four years of her.

Let us also remember that John McCain saved the day in Iraq. If not for him and Joe Lieberman, the al Qaeda Caliphate would be running Iraq right now courtesy of the Democratic Party. They came that close to selling our soldiers and our country down the river AGAIN, just like Vietnam. McCain stood in the gap for America against the Democrats.

For these actions McCain deserves our respect. If a Republican feels in principle that he or she cannot support McCain then let them do so respectfully and not with some of the insults I've seen. That's just plain wrong.

Yes, McCain on several matters of of Fiscal and Social Conservatism has been lacking. I do not propose that we forget this or turn a blind eye to it. However, right now McCain is openly courting us Conservatives. What I do propose is that, rather than ignore him, we answer him. We tell him that we are hearing his high sounding promises that he is making right now, and that we will hold him to them.

Remember the amnesty bill that was defeated? We promise to mke life uncomfortable for him like that if he forgets the promises he is making to Conservatives right now. We should be saying that we will hold him to every sweet promise he makes to us.

People have been calling McCain a traitor to the Republican Party. Well, he has had ample opportunity to royally screw the GOP and has never done so. I have been hearing people cite the rumor that McCain was wanted for Kerry's VP vandidate in 2004. This was a rumor. Let us remember that he campained for Bush that year, I attended a Bush rally and heard him speak at it. He never defected from a 50-50 Senate.

We can look at the glass as half empty or half full, people. Conservatives really do have an opportunity with John McCain. He needs us. And we do need him right now. He is the only one reaching out to us. Will we pout like children? Or will we go to the man and have our say?

John McCain has been on the side of freedom in the war against Asiatic tyranny that we now find ourselves in. Hillary, who no doubt had a Ho Chi Minh poster back in the '60s, has consistently been on the other side. It is prideful foolishness to say there is no difference between Hillary and McCain. McCain, for all that he has been misguided at times, is a patriot who loves this country. Who among us has given more than him for America? The choice is clear for Conservatives- we support McCain, we tell him also that if he forgets his promises to us when he is president that we will remind him in loud voices.


TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2008; election; gop; mccain; yayanothervanity
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1 posted on 02/08/2008 9:56:28 AM PST by Cato Uticensis
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To: Alamo-Girl; Ol' Sparky; Sabramerican; Publius

I know I’m gonna catch some flak for this one, but so be it. I believe every word.


2 posted on 02/08/2008 9:59:50 AM PST by Cato Uticensis
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To: Cato Uticensis

vote for this??

Yeah, right. I will vote for him when he agrees to my tagline.

3 posted on 02/08/2008 9:59:52 AM PST by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Cato Uticensis
Let the bombardment of Pro-McCain threads start.

Not if he was the last candidate on Earth.

4 posted on 02/08/2008 10:00:11 AM PST by wolfcreek (Powers that be will lie like Clintons and spend like drunken McCains to push their Globalist agenda.)
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To: TitansAFC; meandog; therut; MARTIAL MONK; Kuksool; freespirited; furquhart; mossyoaks; ...
The McCain List.
5 posted on 02/08/2008 10:01:29 AM PST by Norman Bates
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To: bill1952

you read my whole post right? I dont propose we forget his bad record on some issues. I propose we hold him to his high promises.


6 posted on 02/08/2008 10:01:29 AM PST by Cato Uticensis
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To: wolfcreek

I didnt say he was a great candidate in any respect other than that of C-in-C. You would prefer Hillary? It is delusion to think Hillary and McCain are the same.


7 posted on 02/08/2008 10:03:32 AM PST by Cato Uticensis
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To: bill1952

Re: your tag line. I find it disheartening that all of them cling to their offices while running. When do they actually perform the job they were elected to do?

I think once you clear the main primaries and are still in the race you must resign from public office or some set date like 6 months prior to election day.


8 posted on 02/08/2008 10:04:25 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Cato Uticensis

Thanks for the ping!


9 posted on 02/08/2008 10:06:00 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Cato Uticensis
However, right now McCain is openly courting us Conservatives. What I do propose is that, rather than ignore him, we answer him. We tell him that we are hearing his high sounding promises that he is making right now, and that we will hold him to them.

I don't how that is possible if he decides to only stay in office one term, which he has hinted at. Trust is the issue and I'm not sure there isn't any issue that McCain wouldn't sell out conservatives on.

McCain working with Democrats to pass liberal legislation while Republicans become a minority in Congress is the worst the case scenario.

The governorship of Arnold Schwarzenegger is proof of what a nightmare a liberal Republican in office is.

It well be better to endure Hillary for four years while a conservative backlash results in Republicans taking back Congress.

10 posted on 02/08/2008 10:10:04 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Cato Uticensis
My dog John.

He protects our neighbor's house. But he lets people come into my house and eat my food, watch my TV, use my bathroom and sleep in my bed.

He pees on the carpet, bites me on the leg, barks while I am trying to sleep and runs off with anybody who smiles at him.

But he is so much better than the bitch across the street.

11 posted on 02/08/2008 10:15:00 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: Cato Uticensis

I think McCain would make a horrible Commander in Chief as outlined here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1963968/posts

I don’t see a single reason to support John McCain for any office. Is he the lesser of available evils? Maybe and maybe not. Why do so many people expect me to support any evil is beyond me.

Senator John McCain is wrong on immigration, taxes, economy, abortion, free speech, gun control, global warming, energy independence, communications, veterans benefits, etc, etc.

Electing a Republican to carry out a liberal agenda is counter productive. All of our resources should be utilized to elect a conservative legislature to keep Obama/Clinton or McCain in check.


12 posted on 02/08/2008 10:16:49 AM PST by TexasVeteran
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To: Cato Uticensis

>I propose we hold him to his high promises.

Been there, done that. - got screwed already.
Want my vote? See my tagline.


13 posted on 02/08/2008 10:17:06 AM PST by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Thank you for your post. - Bill


14 posted on 02/08/2008 10:18:37 AM PST by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

The consequences of four years of Hillary would be dire. Jimmy Carter being gang-raped by the mullahs and the politburo would be like nothing in comparison. Carter nearly succeeded in pushing America off a cliff, we were at the edge when reagan began to push us back.

Hillary might finish what Carter started.

I hear what you are saying, old friend, and I respect your opinion. Still, I think it’s POSSIBLE that McCain might not even be a lesser evil, not an evil at all. If he keeps the promises he makes (yeah, I know how likely is that?). We stopped the amnesty bill last year. If we threaten a Conservative earthquake when he might break his promises, I think we can get a halfway decent presidency out of him. With Hillary we have Ragnarok.


15 posted on 02/08/2008 10:18:44 AM PST by Cato Uticensis
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To: Cato Uticensis

No.


16 posted on 02/08/2008 10:19:23 AM PST by TADSLOS (Estoy Juan McCain y apruebo este mensaje!)
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To: Cato Uticensis

He hasn’t shown unity with the party in his voting record.

Why should I show unity with the party by voting for him?

If he constantly runs to the democrats to enact liberal legislation, what makes you think it will stop?

Considering what he’s passed so far, what makes you think he won’t enact all of Hillary’s agenda, including Hillarycare?


17 posted on 02/08/2008 10:20:57 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Don't think I can vote for you John, I'm feelin' like a maverick.)
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To: Cato Uticensis

Did not know you had been elected to represent me! McCain can kiss it.


18 posted on 02/08/2008 10:22:54 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Cato Uticensis

>> I didnt say he was a great candidate in any respect other than that of C-in-C.

Given his proclivity for crossing the aisle and “working with the other side” — damn the cost to the country (ref: CFR, shamnesty) — how long before he “forgets” his position on the WOT and withdraws his support for our troops and their mission?

I guess you can say “never happen”.

And I can say “Juan’s record of screwing party, citizens, and country for the last decade says it WILL happen”.

Teddy Kennedy has lots of influence on Juan McAmnesty, don’t you know.


19 posted on 02/08/2008 10:23:44 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Retire Ron Paul! Support Chris Peden (www.chrispeden.org))
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To: Cato Uticensis
We should be saying that we will hold him to every sweet promise he makes to us.

And when Juan MexiCain doesn't keep his promises? Then what are you going to do? I mean, really? Just what are you going to do?

20 posted on 02/08/2008 10:26:33 AM PST by kevao
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