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Glenn Beck is no Ronald Reagan (but Rand Paul is a lot like his father)
Mark Levin Fan ^ | February 23, 2010 | Tim Sumner

Posted on 02/23/2010 10:12:38 AM PST by Sergeant Tim

"Ronald Reagan would never have loosely generalized about conservatives and the Republican Party because like a surgeon, like a real thinker, and like an activist, he wanted the distinctions to be known, he wanted the distinctions to be clear, he wanted to promote our principles, and he wanted to contrast them with those who either had no principles or were promoting something else. Carpet-bombing the Republican Party takes out an awful lot of good people, too many good people." -- Mark Levin, February 22, 2010

Mark Levin took great issue last night with "carpet-bombing" the Republican Party:

Mark had some advice for the bomber:

"It is the spending, stupid." Yes, we get it; this grass roots movement of ours gets it and seems determined to vote out of office the offenders. Yet just reading one label, i.e. Republican or Tea Party, and applying a value to candidates is very risky.

In Nevada, a man who few ever heard of and who has not been endorse by two substantial tea party groups there, is polling at 11%; his candidacy might return Harry Reid to the Senate.

Rand Paul in Kentucky is polling far ahead of his nearest opponent to become the Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate. He sounds remarkably like his father, Congressman Ron Paul, on national defense. Rand Paul speaks about the "military-industrial complex." He derides McCain-Feingold yet proposes he own set of restrictions on campaign contributions.

Rand Paul is also factually incorrect about both our invasion of Afghanistan and what constitutes a formal declaration of war. He quotes Michael Scheuer saying, "One of the mistakes we made in Afghanistan was not that we invaded but that we waited a month and a half to go in." Paul expands from that by saying, "So there might have been a reason the President could have sent Special Forces in secretly within a few days and I think that could have been something that would have been justified. However, the truth is it took us a month and a half to get into Afghanistan and there is no reason why there should not have been a declaration of war vote in Congress." Here are the facts: our Special Forces began crossing the border into Afghanistan before dawn there on September 12, 2001; we began invading Afghanistan in force on October 7, 2001; and Congress has 'declared war' more times without using those words that it has used them during our history. In addition, Congress voted in favor (including Ron Paul) of an 'Authorization to Use Military Force' on September 18, 2001 and it did not limit the President to merely invading Afghanistan:

That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

If that was not a declaration of war, then two Presidents have violated Congress's intent in Afghanistan. Yet Congress has since authorized more than 800 billion dollars and nearly 1,000 U.S. troops have died fighting there. It is clear to me that Congress declared war and Rand Paul would be a 'chip off the old block' as a U.S. Senator.

Voters beware!


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: beck; cpac2010; glennbeck; levin; marklevin; paul; politics; randpaul; ronpaul; talkradio; teaparty; wot
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To: MarkLevinFan

If he is, he is a Repubic.


41 posted on 02/23/2010 10:59:54 AM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: lolhelp

Those who attack Beck from “the right” seem to be defending the RINO establishment.


42 posted on 02/23/2010 11:00:11 AM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: MarkLevinFan

I don’t care. I’m not.


43 posted on 02/23/2010 11:00:38 AM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: MarkLevinFan

I think he calls himself a ‘centrist libertarian’ (whatever the heck that means).


44 posted on 02/23/2010 11:01:06 AM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: markedmannerf
Especially since he says he lives in a "green" house and believes man is partially to blame for global warming. On top of that he gives money to progressive and liberal groups to match his staffers. So hes a champion for conservatism but gives money to lib groups? That just doesnt work for me. See here for the details of this.

Read the same article- lives in a "Green" house? So what-I'm considering solar panels for my house for various reasons.

Man may have contributed slighty to GW? It's possible anyway, can't tell for sure until we get the politics out of science. I haven't seen him rant or rave about it, so what?

So he matches the charitable contributions of his employees and his employees choose the charities they want. MY GOD - THE HUMANITY!

Just saying, so what?

45 posted on 02/23/2010 11:01:48 AM PST by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: GeronL

Beck is only defending his bank account.


46 posted on 02/23/2010 11:01:52 AM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: Three if by government
I have listened to Beck respond to this criticism and back off some of this both parties rant in the last couple days. In your opinion do you think he can change and be trusted? Or will he continue to disrupt our attempt to elect as many of Conservatives within the party come this November?

He will continue to be the class clown, always craving attention. So, yes he will continue to disrupt.

47 posted on 02/23/2010 11:02:33 AM PST by MarkLevinFan (Libs suck!)
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To: Daisyjane69

Yeah, I heard Levin’s resume on his show-
A little self-interested. Needing to promote himself in an effort to show he’s been down for the struggle...

Levins sounds a little more like Sharpton and Jackson then Mark Levin himself last couple days..


48 posted on 02/23/2010 11:03:08 AM PST by delchiante
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To: Sergeant Tim

“he wanted the distinctions to be clear, he wanted to promote our principles, and he wanted to contrast them with those who either had no principles or were promoting something else”

What if we lived in a world where there wasn’t a clear distinction between the major parties? Or at least not to people who had principles other than growing the government slower than the other guy and policing the world. Hard to promote your principles via a mechanism controlled by people with whom you disagree.

What Levin ought to be doing here is telling us how Republicans are still—or still could be—Reagan Republicans. Instead, it’s all about Beck’s manners and unity and blah, blah, blah. Which is all well and good if Levin’s right. But I don’t have much reason to think he is. And certainly, he doesn’t explain why he thinks Republicans have any principles.

My guess is we’ll end up with nothing better than another Nixon or Bush, which is not good enough. Unless this Bush can do what the other Bush couldn’t. Namely, “privatize” entitlement programs. But Bush didn’t, so why should we expect another Bush to?


49 posted on 02/23/2010 11:04:09 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: lovecraft

Giving progressive and liberal groups is charity? That’s what they also called giving to groups that were financing terrorism.


50 posted on 02/23/2010 11:04:11 AM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

please. What media personality isn’t?

“Beck stinks. Buy my book! I promise no nasally voice in the book”


51 posted on 02/23/2010 11:04:49 AM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: cripplecreek; GeronL

Its weird. The guy pounds away day after day promoting the constitution as our touchstone and our path forward, basically channeling the very things my dad used to tell me, and catches a hailstorm for it... but not just from the Obamists.

Similarly, Sarah has managed to stick a wrench in the Obamists’ agenda and gets savaged for it... but not just by the Obamists.

I’ve got a feeling we’re hearing from that part of the GOP my daddy warned me about. Its like the old saw; you throw a shoe over the fence, and the dog that yelps is the dog you hit.


52 posted on 02/23/2010 11:05:06 AM PST by marron
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To: GeronL
It’s a nice thing he never attacks fellow Republicans huh? lol

You just made that snarky comment about attacking fellow Republicans, but don't care if Beck is one or not. You're as wishy-washy as Beck himself! Wait a minute. Are you Glenn Beck?

53 posted on 02/23/2010 11:06:40 AM PST by MarkLevinFan (Libs suck!)
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To: Daisyjane69

“Levin had already been an elected official and a law school graduate by 22 years old.

That would be right around the time Beck was getting loaded so he could get sober some years later”

Blah, blah, blah. What’s your point? Levin is smarter? Fine. So what? If I want to learn something, I read a book. Levin and Beck make a living through info-tainment and agit-prop, not elightenment. They rabble rouse, if they do anything, and Beck’s better at it.


54 posted on 02/23/2010 11:10:08 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: delchiante

I love Levin — I’ve been a fan for years, I listen to his show every night while making dinner, I’ve bought and read his books — but this Beck obsession is burning him up. It’s bringing out a very ugly side of him. He’s doing more to turn us against each other than Beck ever has.


55 posted on 02/23/2010 11:10:42 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Mark is just doing what needs to be done. What others are unwilling to do.


56 posted on 02/23/2010 11:12:23 AM PST by MarkLevinFan (Libs suck!)
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To: Sergeant Tim

So you think capitalism is a bad thing?


57 posted on 02/23/2010 11:12:40 AM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: MarkLevinFan

A centrist-libertarian does not sound even remotely like a conservative.


58 posted on 02/23/2010 11:12:46 AM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

“The advantage of securing a Congressional Declaration of War, is that if a liberal votes for a Declaration of War as per the Constitution, he can’t very well go back after the fact and wail, ‘IT’S BUSH’S FAULT!!’ Hey, buddy — you said ‘WAR’ and you voted for it, capische?”

We still should be able to do so. First of all, everyone knows what the non-declaration declerations mean. Secondly, whatever it is they were voting on, they knew, we knew, and Bush knew were meant to give Bush the green light. Nonetheless, libs will proceed to blame Bush for what happened, and the public will bite or not. Most often bite, since the president asked for it and he is the commander in chief.


59 posted on 02/23/2010 11:13:46 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: marron

Your right.

The attacks on Glenn Beck seem to be coming straight from the country club. The same RINO’s who attack Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin.


60 posted on 02/23/2010 11:14:50 AM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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