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A theory: Why 'The Donald' is talking birth certificate
The Radio Patriot ^ | March 31, 2010 | Andrea Shea King

Posted on 03/31/2011 11:56:25 AM PDT by patriotgal1787

“The Donald” has volleyed yet another cannonball at Obama, intimating that his mysterious background could include (gasp!) The Muslim word!

A few days ago, while my show producer Dave and I were considering why Trump has come out with all these questions about Obama’s nativity, we came up with a theory that I’ll share with you. But keep in mind, it’s just a theory, a hunch:

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertifcate; birthers; certifigate; donaldtrump; hillary; muslim; naturalborncitizen; obama; trump
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1 posted on 03/31/2011 11:56:31 AM PDT by patriotgal1787
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To: patriotgal1787

Ratings?


2 posted on 03/31/2011 11:58:52 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: patriotgal1787
Maybe he cares about this country. Maybe he cares about the Constitution. Maybe he thinks Obama is hurting the economy.

Or, as indicated in the article, maybe he is in collusion with Hillary and is trying to finangle a sweet political deal for himself and get set up as Secretary of Commerce in Hillary's first administration as president.

Personally, I'm going with "Maybe he cares about this country."

3 posted on 03/31/2011 12:01:35 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: patriotgal1787

Could be. Who knows why The Donald does anything he does. He has never struck me as being gullible. So I don’t expect him to start perpetuating debunked rumors on this subject. It’ll be entertaining to watch, that’s for sure.


4 posted on 03/31/2011 12:05:15 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: patriotgal1787
I've been posting it for days, the donald is hildabitch's beard.

osamaobama will take the backroom bribes and go off into honey moon land with larry sinclair and the coke.

The donald will get gummint provided hair, and two more casinos and all the rights to cigarettes in Hong Cong.

5 posted on 03/31/2011 12:08:34 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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To: patriotgal1787

I think it’s a real stretch to say #1 that Hillary has some BC-related info and #2 she’s only going to use it in partnership with The Donald.

More likely IMHO is that Trump himself has dug up something. He’s certainly got the money to fund an infinite number of PIs’ researchers, and bribe-recipients and as the consummate dealmaker, he damn sure knows what the value of such information would be - to both sides.


6 posted on 03/31/2011 12:08:49 PM PDT by bigbob (u)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I’m going with a business strategy known as differentiation. No one else is plowing this ground, so he gets the attention. He also gets points for courage since many others are afraid to go there.

I’m not thinking he will be there at the finish line though.


7 posted on 03/31/2011 12:10:42 PM PDT by Phillipian (Post Tenebras Lux)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I’m going with a business strategy known as differentiation. No one else is plowing this ground, so he gets the attention. He also gets points for courage since many others are afraid to go there.

I’m not thinking he will be there at the finish line though.


8 posted on 03/31/2011 12:10:59 PM PDT by Phillipian (Post Tenebras Lux)
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To: patriotgal1787

I love the fact that they try and talk over Trump and he just doesn’t let it happen.


9 posted on 03/31/2011 12:11:58 PM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: patriotgal1787

I don’t care if Trump gets elected president or not, but if he’s successful in unmasking what could be the greatest Constitutional fraud in history, then he deserves a plaque or signpost or a statue in DC. He deserves better than Moe Greene. {/Godfather reference}


10 posted on 03/31/2011 12:13:49 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: USS Alaska

That ‘Hillary Clinton’ angle is a bit of a stretch since she superglued her future to BO.

Her ‘International’ reputation is shot as SOS...in spite of what the lying MSM is desperate to push.

And Trump doesn’t seem to be the type to ‘share’ the stage or the thunder with anyone for any reason.

JMO.


11 posted on 03/31/2011 12:18:08 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God 's redemption.)
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To: bigbob

Donald Trump is never going to play 2nd or 3rd fiddle to Hilliary.


12 posted on 03/31/2011 12:18:08 PM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: USS Alaska

let me guess, you are a Palin drone


13 posted on 03/31/2011 12:18:55 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: bigbob

agreed, the fact he is putting himself out so publicly on this matter to me says he has been satisfied that there is something to it all, and his due diligence would be exceptionally complete on the subject.

It is possible he intends to make public what he knows, if he has anything concrete enough to disclose, once he gets a fair amount of attention put on the matter.


14 posted on 03/31/2011 12:21:29 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: patriotgal1787
Could be for any number of reasons, some patriotic reasons, some "It's just business" reasons.

Personally, I've been waiting for someone to get hurt enough by what obama and his demonrat and rino cohorts have been doing to start fighting back.

The TEA party certainly rose to the occasion, but not the players like Trump. Not until now.

Whatever his reasons for coming forward, Trump is doing us all a huge favor. All of us have an opinion about obama's eligibility and obama has a duty to clear up the confusion and put this issue behind us.

15 posted on 03/31/2011 12:23:24 PM PDT by GBA (Those who die with the most liberty...Win! Ever Vigilance: For the children.)
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To: patlin
let me guess, you are a Palin drone

I love Sarah and would be thrilled to vote for her if she chooses to run.

If she doesn't but Michelle, does, that's OK with me.

But anyone that has "pissant" on his research ping list and calls me a drone can kiss my dago butt.

16 posted on 03/31/2011 12:25:10 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

>Maybe he cares about this country. Maybe he cares about the Constitution.<

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Perhaps he is taking action because he sees that no politician has the courage to challenge Obama’s eligibility. NOT ONE!


17 posted on 03/31/2011 12:30:41 PM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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To: WoofDog123

I remember Donald Trump back when he was married to Ivana, and he lost his entire upper echelon management force in that plane crash and his fortunes reversed almost immediately. Took him a while to once again put together a management crew to put him back on top. He’s smart enough to surround himself with top drawer people. If he does intend a Presidential run, I would like him to declare prior to his run who he intends to appoint as his cabinet and consultants, and think he’s got as good a chance as anyone so far as to getting my vote.


18 posted on 03/31/2011 12:30:44 PM PDT by kiltie65
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To: kiltie65

I am more impressed with someone who has been bankrupt and comes back, than with somebody who never has been bankrupt.

The bottom line is, Donald likes to win, and we badly need somebody like that in the White House.


19 posted on 03/31/2011 12:32:12 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: patriotgal1787
Ahhh, A Clinton connection perhaps?

I have always thought the Clintons had the goods on Obamah but at first they didn't think they would need to play the Birther Card to secure Hillary's nomination.

And then later when they really needed to play their Trump Card it was too late and they would have been called racists and worst, forever damaging both their future careers.

I wouldn't rule anything out at this time except the Pom-Pom media asking Barry for his hospital issued long form BC.

20 posted on 03/31/2011 12:33:36 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: patriotgal1787

I think Trump knows he has no chance of getting past the primaries, BUT - he is willing to raise an issue everyone else is afraid of.


21 posted on 03/31/2011 12:34:39 PM PDT by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: USS Alaska
the donald is hildabitch's beard.

Bingo. The more The Donald quacks, the more obvious it becomes that Barry Dunham-Soetoro is about to get primaried.

22 posted on 03/31/2011 12:44:40 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I can’t see him doing this for Hillary even though they are friends. I admit it’s possible, but Trump mainly serves himself.

So either:

A - he’s entertaining himself with it and taking down Obummer along for the ride.

B- he really is running.


23 posted on 03/31/2011 12:45:38 PM PDT by RockinRight (C'mon people - enough with the FR circular firing squad.)
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To: patlin

I prefer to refer to them as a collective, like the SarahBorg or the Oracle of Sarah.


24 posted on 03/31/2011 12:47:02 PM PDT by RockinRight (C'mon people - enough with the FR circular firing squad.)
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To: Azzurri

I would tear down that statue of Andy Warhol in NYC and put Trump up there if he unmasks the fraudo in the wh.


25 posted on 03/31/2011 12:50:21 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (I am keeping the faith, I have not finished my course and I am fighting for the good)
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To: bigbob

With no BC presented, it can’t be said for sure that Obama’s father wasn’t a US citizen. No one can say it’s a fact that Obama isn’t a Natural Born Citizen (born of two US citizen parents).

Even though the constitution requires our president to be born of two US citizen parents (and for good reason), the common story is that Obama is not. This being the case, and probably the simple truth, any BC that exists is sure to be kept hidden for decades. Without a BC, no court can judge that Obama fails to be a Natural Born Citizen (born of two US citizen parents).

But no matter, it seems that no court wants to even look at the truth. I don’t think Trump has anything other than hearsay, but I hope I’m wrong. What I can imagine he might have is evidence that the microfilmed newspaper birth announcements are frauds.

It’s odd that McCain had to prove to Congress that he was a Natural Born Citizen, but Obama didn’t. Few people look at the NBC angle, and Trump hasn’t mentioned it that I know of.


26 posted on 03/31/2011 12:53:55 PM PDT by Tellurian
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To: bkepley

I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump had most or all of Obama’s missing documentation. Trump doesn’t like to lose, and plays with a winning hand every time. I’d bet he’s got an Ace in the hole, or bluffs so well, that Obama’s past will start showing up in bits and pieces.


27 posted on 03/31/2011 12:54:21 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: RockinRight

Wny can’t it be “all of the above”?

This is so classically Clintonian that I can’t beleive that they’re somehow in the mix, but Trump could clearly be advancing on mulitiple fronts with this. And, he’s also basically coming out saying that he thinks that 0 is neutered, and that it’s safe to take the potshots.

Oh, and one more thing: Trump isn’t saying that he thinks that 0 wasn’t born in Hawaii. On the contrary, he’s said that he thinks he was.

But he’s noticed what a lot of FReepers have: 0 is spending a lot of time and money and capital keeping the BC out of public view, and that’s something that makes you go hmmmm.....


28 posted on 03/31/2011 12:58:23 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less.)
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To: patriotgal1787

“It’s not a stretch to imagine that Hillary knows about Obama’s “secret” past, but was so compromised with her own crap that the Obama handlers had on her that she couldn’t bring it out in the campaign.”

Were this theory true, HRC’s goal would be to have R’s take down Zero. A democrat taking him down would be fatal to their electoral chances. Democrats are completely dependent on getting 85% plus of the black vote. A democrat who took down Zero would have no future national election prospects.

So on this theory, it would be better to regard it as a false flag operation, with Trump carrying HRC’s water for her.


29 posted on 03/31/2011 12:58:41 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: RockinRight
I prefer to refer to them as a collective, like the SarahBorg or the Oracle of Sarah

I may have to heist your terms, just giving you a heads up. Thanks!

30 posted on 03/31/2011 1:00:34 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: patriotgal1787

I really don’t care why Trump’s doing it, I’m just enjoying it. I loved the way Trump stuck it to O’reilly. O’Reilly got burned so bad he kept calling Trump names for the next 2 segments when Trump wasn’t there.


31 posted on 03/31/2011 1:02:43 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Jaidyn; Tellurian

I hope Trump knows or learns that the birth certificate is a dead end as Obama can’t be forced to reveal it.

The sealed school records and the Social Security Number ‘problem’ represent the hand that can level Obama’s house of cards.


32 posted on 03/31/2011 1:02:48 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Throw away your papers, blow up your TV...and set yourself free.)
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To: patriotgal1787
It could be something like CNN WOLF BLITZER AND DONALD TRUMP ON HILLARY CLINTON (Trump loves HillaryCare). Me I think it's much more self centered. You know, there's no such thing as bad publicity.
33 posted on 03/31/2011 1:04:53 PM PDT by McGruff (as long as we're in it — we better be in it to win it. And if there's doubt, we get out.)
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To: RockinRight
Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.
34 posted on 03/31/2011 1:06:30 PM PDT by McGruff (as long as we're in it — we better be in it to win it. And if there's doubt, we get out.)
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To: USS Alaska

so you think your support of eligibility coward enablers of an usurper and their dismissing a key article of the Constitution rates an approval of your poor choices?

When either of these women (or any of the other Republicrat eligibility boys) grow a pair, page me...I won’t really be expecting it so you better make it loud!!!

The Big Boo


35 posted on 03/31/2011 1:08:16 PM PDT by The Big Boo (Lone Wolf M/C)
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To: RockinRight
So either:

A - he’s entertaining himself with it and taking down Obummer along for the ride.

B- he really is running.

or (C): he's not running, but is willing to take Obama down in exchange for unspecified future favors from whoever benefits from him doing so.

36 posted on 03/31/2011 1:08:21 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: patriotgal1787

Trump is about money. He sees the greedy vein in the current crop of Demonrats and he knows his head is bound for the chopping block on the great altar of socialism. Trump is on a mission to save his billions.


37 posted on 03/31/2011 1:13:12 PM PDT by McKayopectate
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To: The Big Boo
so you think your support of eligibility coward enablers of an usurper and their dismissing a key article of the Constitution rates an approval of your poor choices?

I'd answer this rambling, self serving question, if it were in a form that made sense.

And boob, I won't be calling, posting or pinging you.

I think this is my first response to you, not sure, but it will be my last.

38 posted on 03/31/2011 1:17:50 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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To: PapaBear3625

1. When was the last time a person of Trump’s stature (whether you appove of it or not), directly, and so visibility, take on a sitting President (in this case an usurper)? And take him on in what is a very personal way?

2. When did a challenger of a sitting President (in this case an usurper), last so expertly handle an entirely hostile, vengeful, kool-aid drinking media?

3. Name one Repbublican that has done 1 and/or 2.

Case is pretty much closed on this one and there are alot of gnashing of teeth and pulling of hair of the supporters of the eligibility cowards here who are seeing their poodle’s electability simply vanish. We may not even need Republican primaries.

The Big Boo


39 posted on 03/31/2011 1:18:30 PM PDT by The Big Boo (Lone Wolf M/C)
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To: patriotgal1787
I choose to believe that Donald loves his country and is willing to put his life on the line for it, because there are many ways Eric and his peoples could arrange an accident.

He's not running, because he would never put his empire into a blind trust.

He can throw hand grenades at the enemy, though, and flush them out from under their rocks, and if he takes a few arrows for it, so be it.

40 posted on 03/31/2011 1:19:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("...crush the bourgeoisie... between the millstones of taxation and inflation." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: USS Alaska

cool. and just one little favor. If you don’t post anymore here about support for eligibility cowards, I won’t see it and have anything to correct you on. I think we’re square.

The Big Boo


41 posted on 03/31/2011 1:20:42 PM PDT by The Big Boo (Lone Wolf M/C)
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To: patriotgal1787
That's always been my theory about Perot.
42 posted on 03/31/2011 1:22:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("...crush the bourgeoisie... between the millstones of taxation and inflation." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: patriotgal1787

I don’t know why Trump is doing this except that he is a man who knows how to exploit a weakness. The weakness is not really the Birth Certificate...it IS about transparency and openness. The more he talks about this, the more he needs to ...and I think has to a degree...say that Obama’s lack of transparency on this issue is the same as he governs. ALSO more importantly, he needs to hammer the other documents that Obama refuses to release. If it were just the BC, it would be one thing...he needs to keep asking...why won’t he release his real Birth Certificate...his transcripts at all of his colleges especially since no one remembers him. While Obama is on the ropes for lack of transparency, Trump should be showing his actions as simply a continuing pattern.


43 posted on 03/31/2011 1:25:34 PM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: patriotgal1787

It’s a cynical political calculation to establish some conservative street cred. And highly entertaining.


44 posted on 03/31/2011 1:29:45 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: PapaBear3625

Quite possible.


45 posted on 03/31/2011 1:36:54 PM PDT by RockinRight (C'mon people - enough with the FR circular firing squad.)
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To: patriotgal1787
This is the kind of “prediction” people in the public eye make. If it turns out to be ridiculous they hope we forget it. If it somehow is correct they NEVER let us forget it. I think this falls in the first category and she hopes we will forget it.
46 posted on 03/31/2011 1:44:26 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: patriotgal1787

There are some great posts on this thread. I’ll try to add to the mix.

First, IMO, Hillary and O have enough goods on each other that neither one dares to make a move. It is probably not in Hillary’s interest for evidence of O’s ineligibility to surface.

The Trump knows how to measure people and he knows politics. Obama has a primary weakness and that is his failure to qualify - even if he is somehow qualified, which on the face of it seems impossible.

Trump is willing to parlay that political weakness for his benefit like no politician has to date. And that is what politics is all about.

As others have stated, Trump has the experience and ability to conduct the necessary background research and he may have done enough to feel comfortable with his public statements. Any such research would include talking with Lucas Smith; LtCol Lakin’s former HI attorney brother, folks in Kenya and England along with others who are unkown to the public.


47 posted on 03/31/2011 1:44:38 PM PDT by frog in a pot (We need a working definition of "domestic enemies" if the oath of office is to have meaning.)
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To: patriotgal1787

IMHO, when this started The Donald was the punchline to a joke about who might get the R nomination. Now, I’d say he’s in the top ten. He’s getting great press, and moving up in the ranks, simple as that...


48 posted on 03/31/2011 2:05:35 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: patriotgal1787
he’s a business man first and always. And as such, he’ll always do whatever’s best for his business.

maybe he thinks his business will do better if this country does not becomes a moslem or commie hellhole

49 posted on 03/31/2011 2:07:02 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: patriotgal1787

1. Ratings

2. he is calling Obama’s bluff. By becoming a lightning rod for the issue, Trump is defanging Obama’s administration and any regulations Obama wants. NO MATTER where anyone is on this issue, it begs the question of why Obama has kept his real birth certficate concealed.
-is he not born in the USA?
-was his name changed?
-was he adopted and this would show?
-did they show religion at that time?

3. It sets Obama as somebody nobody likes. Obama is forced publicly to not appear as “one of us” united states citizens. Obama not likeable.


50 posted on 03/31/2011 2:16:04 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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