Posted on 05/21/2011 12:07:31 PM PDT by SatinDoll
Jerome Corsi states that Obama was born in Kenya. He also claims that he is closing in on Mark Niesse as the forger of Obama's BC in Hawaii.
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You don’t know what I or ANYONE ELSE has.
So, we are all laughing at YOU!
It's a freakin' ink smudge dude. People find the likenesses of the Jesus in potato chips, think that means anything? I could probably magnify random writing around my house and find similar ominous smiley faces. It's a nothingburger, just like everything else you've got.
We're probably going to be doing this next year and your still going to have nothing that will matter. No prosecutors, no judges, no conservative politicians or commentators are going to buy any of this conspiracy stuff your flogging. I agree with what Beck said on this birther conspiracy stuff - it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
According to Corsi, each forger has a signature style, like a painter has a signature brush stroke and color palette. In addition, forgers of paintings are proud of their skilled work and will often leave their initials somewhere in the painting. Supposedly, the birth certificate forger left his actual signature or initials somewhere in the document.
Indeed, if it's a good forgery, why would it be so easy to establish that it is a forgery?
No one said it was a good forgery. Corsi argues that, despite the fact that Obama had all of the CIA's best forgers at his command, he was unable to make use of them, because of the nature of the task. He needed someone who would not divulge the forgery. So he was stuck with someone in his inner circle whose Photoshop skills are obviously only mediocre.
Remember the bait and switch ... Sndy Burglar came out with papers stuffed in his clothes, but no one knows what he may have been brining in to leave behind. Abercrumbie made lots of noise looking, but no one thought he might have been sent to place something.
Thank you for pointing me in that direction. Helps clarify.
On the Lakin subject, I am also of the opinion that orders must be obeyed. I applaud his courage, but he surely knew what the outcome would be. Was it the right choice for him? Guess that depends on how this all shakes out. But I presume he expected his 6 months? I would have...
Anyway, eligibility is a political matter, not a military matter. If one understands that the letter of the law must be protected, then one understands that the obeying of orders is a letter of the law thing.
Lakin understood this. He chose to fall on the sword.
While I'm here, I want to also tell you Hawaii is much more racist than ANY STATE on the Mainland. The fact that Obama is a product of Hawaii and Indonesia, plus the far left wing education he received on the Mainland was more than enough to me that he has no conception of a good America. Exceptionalism!
As I told my grandchild on the day after Obama was elected “I'm freaked out and scared.”
Our main stream media is our enemy! They all party together in NYC and DC, cocktails, affirmations, etc. - they have their own news culture superficial, artificial BS! And I may add that I grew up in DC and moved away at college age. It's too disgusting. Wean your way as soon as possible from this source of your news, or view, it is a jaded eye.
Dude, I've seen you on some of these threads. Your just flat out rude and obnoxious. I'm sorry your conspiracy theory isn't going anywhere and never will, but you don't have to be so nasty on the forums.
The issue is ... fraud. That’s the only issue I care about. I’m already certain Obama’s not eligible, by not meeting the NBC requirement.
But I also see that as a difficult issue to explain to the public in this age of delusion. But fraud, why that’s something folks still understand.
Why hasn’t Hawaii allowed the kind of expert you like to see involved in this matter into their archives and files? Pretty simple question.
Some of us want the truth revealed and the perpetrators in jail. For some of us this has nothing to do with politics but is about foundations - about the rule of law and ensuring that we NEVER have all of government, media, courts, and law enforcement piss on us like this again, which is what the Constitution is supposed to make sure we have the power to ensure.
How the heck do we have accountability to the rule of law if nobody but the government in power has “standing” to challenge whether or not they themselves broke the law? “The government” acted as a single unit in all of this. Every prosecutor, every Congress-critter, every judge was just an extension of the administration. NOT ONE of them would take the rule of law and Constitution seriously. They are all in bed with each other, the ruling class. And until we the people say not only “no” to them but “Hell, no!!!” that’s the way it’s gonna be forever.
That’s what this is about for me. We can get rid of Obama, if we’re allowed to have a vote and if the vote is counted honestly. But then we’ll just get somebody else in the White House to ignore the rule of law and screw us however they want without any danger of consequences. The Founding Fathers set up this form of government with the checks and balances, separation of powers, Constitution, and elections because they believed that ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY. That means that who we elect makes NO DIFFERENCE unless we have a way to hold them accountable to the rule of law. If they CAN get away with screwing us they will - every one of them, every time.
We need to say in no uncertain terms, “You. will. NEVER. get away. with doing this crap on us again. Never. And you will NEVER play chicken with the Constitution again. The giant is awake and if you don’t fear us yet you will before this is done.”
"Trust but verify."Verification is easy enough, eh? Should be no big problem.
How could there have been a “battle” of Blair Mountain if there had been no insurrection?
t’s up to birthers to prove the document is a fake...
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Excuse me, but can you tell me when and where the real document was provided for experts to examine?
I seem to have missed that information.
In this famous case, they likely would not put out an opinion without examining the original document. How do inks, paper, age, etc come into play on a photocopy? They could examine the copies of type and typewriting as well as signatures with a microscope, but they could not use other scientific forensic methods to aid their opinions.
Can you tell if a $100 dollar bill is counterfeit by looking at a copy of it on the Internet?
You are asking for a half-a$$ed opinion from an expert who makes their living from their veracity and completeness. Not likely to happen IMO. Maybe you can get Dan Rather's experts—even then they got to touch the documents and wouldn't back Rather...Fake but Accurate/s
The case now at 9th Circus has a lengthy evidentary piece which takes the forgery apart methodically, and it is now sworn to data for that case. The person submitting the accusations is a recognized expert in the field of foresnic examination of documents and electronically generated documents. Do a little homework.
There are a bunch who would like to testify in court, but the courts won’t let them.
You say we can’t prove a negative. Yet we’re supposed to prove that the BC is not a genuine BC. The guy who could prove it IS a genuine BC refuses to allow it to be seen in a court of law where the rules of evidence would be in effect and the supporting paper/computer trail could be subpoenaed.
Why do you suppose that is?
How can your analysis be anything but a complete dismissal of facts present, though?
(Sorry, i dont remember interacting before, but on this...)
my gosh, even the most basic understanding of computer graphic software, a simple understanding of optical character rrecognition software and how it is used, and to see again, multiple names on multiple variations of birth certificates as far as the doctor who was present at birth and how peopel SWORE it was so-and-so
you either haven’t been up to speed or the other statements are true
So, sorry, I wasn’t trying to offend, but my gosh, this last version is so phony, so fake, made on paper that is clearly a computer generated graphic, the most basic person who owns a scanner can see that this paper does NOT have the charactristics of a scanned document just by observation...
And you said that Corsi didn’t prove it a fake? Everyone who examined it who has any computer background has dismissed this recent document as a sham
I don’t know. That is a valid point.
I don’t have any “experts of my own”. It’s all over FR and you can read any of them just as much as I can.
What I find very curious is your deep and unhealthy obsession with supporting the legitimacy of this latest fraudulent document, and yet are completely unwilling to prove that it is legitimate.
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